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re: HBO Max announces upcoming Harry Potter series

Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:10 pm to
Posted by bad93ex
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:10 pm to
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It’s weird. Some of the best movies in the series are the worst adaptations



It depends on which camp you're in, I watched the movies first before reading the books (Audible) and Goblet of Fire is my favorite even though it was a horrible adaptation.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:23 pm to
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A faithful adaptation


Hmmmmm
Posted by Bham4Tide
In a Van down by the River
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 8:59 pm to
Did anyone actually read the story?

It is with JK Rowling as Executive Producer. She is behind the whole thing. She gets to get the cast of her choice (and kick to the curb the ones who have turned on her in my opinion).

She gets to tell the whole story this time - over ten years.

Good for her.
Posted by MasterKnight
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 4/12/23 at 10:11 pm to
I don’t see how they are going to do a series off the books. I have read the books and seen the movies. Enjoyed them both. The first few books ( movies) are aimed for kids. Not until Goblet does it start to get older and darker ( more interesting).

Just don’t see how an audience will wait a week to see what happens next when the material has been out for nearly 20 years.

Would be like Disney+ making a series for the Star Wars OT with a new Han, Luke, and Leia. No thank you.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 12:41 am to
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Just don’t see how an audience will wait a week to see what happens next when the material has been out for nearly 20 years


I mean, there’s diehard Potterheads out there that will support it and make it worth it for HBO. But you can really make the argument as to why people would show up for a lot of media.

LOTR has been out for ages. Why would anyone want to go watch that in theaters? Why would anyone want to watch the original HP movies? Why would people want to watch the MCU when they’re based on stories that have already happened decades before. I think it’s too soon but I think this was inevitable. If the series had come out 5-10 years ago, the movies never would have been made. A 8-10 episode series covering each book makes way more sense and will include a lot of things that were cut from 3-7
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 5:18 am to
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Just don’t see how an audience will wait a week to see what happens next when the material has been out for nearly 20 years.



It's called nostalgia.

A lot of the people who grew up reading the books now have children. While the movies are certainly out there, it will be very satisfying to a lot of these Potter fans to be able to sit down with their children week-to-week watching a new adaptation of the books they grew up loving.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:38 am to
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Of course. Every smart kid will be black
my point is every kid at a select private school is smart. frick even Neville was great at charms and herbology. Flat out acting like a black kid can't be realistically the smartest in school is fundamentally racist. But I'd expect nothing less from this board.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 7:43 am to
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It depends on which camp you're in, I watched the movies first before reading the books (Audible) and Goblet of Fire is my favorite even though it was a horrible adaptation.
same here it's my favorite movie and probably the worst adaptation
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 8:12 am to
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every kid at a select private school is smart.
Meh. They are magical kids. That's why they are chosen. One of the reasons is so they will know how to handle their powers instead of going around wreaking havoc with random magic.
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Flat out acting like a black kid can't be realistically the smartest in school is fundamentally racist.
I'm not saying the black kid can;t be smart. I'm saying that the virtue signaling writer/director will cast blacks as the smart kids by default. Like 90's movies, and really into today, whenever a film featured a computer nerd or science guy, the guy was usually black. Virtue signaling.

Plus, we're talking about Britain, in a time prior to them committing suicide by letting hordes of hostile foreigners into their country.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 9:00 am
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:06 am to
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I'm not saying the black kid can;t be smart. I'm saying that the virtue signaling writer/director will cast blacks as the smart kids by default. Like 90's movies, and really into today, whenever a film featured a computer nerd or science guy, the guy was usually black. Virtue signaling.

Plus, we're talking about Britain, in a time prior to them committing suicide by letting hordes of hostile foreigners into their country.


you do realize Rowling never specified Hermione's race? Just that she had frizzy hair and dark skin compared to Ron's?

Seems like such an insignificant thing to harp on.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:13 am to
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you do realize Rowling never specified Hermione's race? Just that she had frizzy hair and dark skin compared to Ron's?


Well, there are illustrations which were included with the original books where she's clearly white
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:17 am to


Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9048 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:21 am to
I mean, I don't have any beef with Rowling insinuating that based solely on the manuscript she wrote. It's a fictional story, and I don't believe skin color should matter (except when it's arbitrarily changed for socio-political reasons).

But when you agree to illustrate and cinematize that manuscript, you pretty much forfeit the idea that the characters can look "however you want them to look." Emma Watson was obviously chosen for a reason - ostensibly because Rowling said "yes, that's definitely Hermione"; I don't think they drew Watson's name out of a hat.

So with all due respect to Rowling, she can't have her cake and eat it too.
This post was edited on 4/13/23 at 9:44 am
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:47 am to
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it seems too soon for something like this. It doesn't feel like anyone is tired of the movies, and HBO is trying to fill the gap GoT left. I'll definitely watch, but could have waited another 5-10 years for them to reboot it.
. I agree with all of this.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:50 am to
a good example of this being able to expand on the books is Ginny Weasley.

Based on the movies Harry should have ended up with Cho. Getting with Ginny just seemed forced.

In the books they flesh out how Harry has been obsessing about Ginny and how he really cared for her and liked her. She's a way better character in the books also. Even though her actress is very good in the movies she had shite scripts to work with.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50604 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 9:51 am to
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But when you agree to illustrate and cinematize that manuscript, you pretty much forfeit the idea that the characters can look "however you want them to look." Emma Watson was obviously chosen for a reason - ostensibly because Rowling said "yes, that's definitely Hermione"; I don't think they drew Watson's name out of a hat.


Yeah Rowling already showed us what Hermione looks like, numerous times. She isn't black. There are even illustrated versions of the books now. She can retcon her characters however she wants but that doesn't mean I'm going to support it.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51694 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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She can retcon her characters however she wants but that doesn't mean I'm going to support it.
it really bothers you that much that a fictional girl in a wizarding world would be black? sometimes i just can't wrap my head around what people care so much about.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56417 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:00 am to
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Yeah Rowling already showed us what Hermione looks like, numerous times
She's also repeatedly said that Hermione is a self insert, basically an extension of Rowling.

But, she virtue signals with the best of them, like when she declared Dumbledore was gay for no other reason than to placate the lunatic fringe. Her tweet is not surprising.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:12 am to
I don't care much about if Hermione is cast as a black girl. I'm not going to behold that character to being white simply because of an illustration. Her being white isn't an important aspect of the character. To stick to the source materials, just have a sharp girl with frizzy hair.

Now if they change Ron, then yeah there is no defense to that.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11681 posts
Posted on 4/13/23 at 10:14 am to
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it really bothers you that much that a fictional girl in a wizarding world would be black?


It bothers him than any character is black. You should have seen his melt when they had the old black Captain America in that Disney+ show
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