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Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:05 am to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:05 am to
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It’s probably been discussed and probably unavoidable but Kate’s total superhuman awesomeness at everything, including her ability to beat up big dudes, is tiresome. She’s basically an even less believable Widow


Oh for frick's sake. She's anything but a Mary Sue.

The opening credits for the first episode lay out her development (and failures along the way) and she's been anything but flawless. She's fricked up, made mistakes and taken damage.
Posted by biglego
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 8:24 am to
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She certainly seemed too capable in the first episode, but I think in later episodes has shown to be more in the way when things have escalated.

Ok that makes sense since I’m on three episodes in
Posted by QJenk
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 11:30 am to
Potential spoilers from new Spiderman film.











What are the chances that Daredevil shows up in the final episode. Also with Spiderman webslinging in New York Christmas-time in the ending scene, I wonder if this show alludes to him at all. Perhaps Clint looks up in the sky and sees Peter slinging around.
Posted by Doug_H
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 12:45 pm to
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When he hade his conversation with Nat at the Battle of New York memorial

Did anybody catch the person in the white van that appeared to be watching Clint and taking pictures? They were out of focus, but it sure looked like that's what was happening in the background, but they never referenced it. Unless that was maybe Yelena, with the way she mentioned following Kate I guess she could have been following Clint too, but then again she asked Kate where Clint was so that does not seem likely
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:51 pm to
Apparently the finale is rated TV-14-LV which means strong language and intense violence.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 12/21/21 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 2:58 am to
Ok...that ending was bullshite!
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:08 am to
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Ok...that ending was bullshite!


It was, “Ok, let’s wrap the entire story up in 15 minutes!”

But the show has been slightly slapstick the entire season.

Question, what’s with the watch, and who is Clint’s wife (character that is)?

Is Kate’s mom’s fiancé going to become Zoro (or was he DC)?

The Easter egg was great.

***Edit***
I’m guessing Jack will become The Swordsman (Jacques)

Upon further search, a photo of Jack appears in my search, so I guess it’s already known.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 3:20 am
Posted by SEClint
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 3:08 am to
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What are the chances that Daredevil shows up in the final episode. 


Hoping him and Punisher
Posted by LSUFreek
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 4:18 am to
That mid-credits extra scene deserves a Tony.
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:35 am to
They better not have killed Kingpin like that.
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:48 am to
Nah, no way is he dead.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 6:50 am to
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They better not have killed Kingpin like that.



Not a Chance with Echo getting her own series.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:34 am to
The mid-credits scene was awesome. I liked the ending. No way is Kingpin dead; D’Onofrio is so good in that role.

Were Kazi/Maya a couple? I never got what their relationship was meant to be
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 7:58 am to
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No way is Kingpin dead


Supposedly the scene mirrors a scene from the comics with Maya. He gets better.

I imagine they did it this way to give them an out if D'Onofrio doesn't want to commit to playing the character.

If he is I would not be surprised if Marvel splashes some cash to keep Kingpin around for a couple of movies or appearances in series.
Posted by USMCTIGER1970
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Member since Mar 2017
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:35 am to
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if D'Onofrio doesn't want to commit to playing the character


I heard he was all in! I cant believe with all the Spiderman movies we've had to date that he hasn't made a big screen debut yet. But if they are going to continue with DD on Disney+, you just quite simply have to have him!
Posted by Arksulli
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:37 am to
Also on the finale itself... I liked it but I don't think they really stuck the landing. They didn't fall on their butts like Falcon or Loki... but they didn't really stick it.

A bit too many moving parts I believe. Enjoying to watch but not really a "great" finale. Marvel needs to work on those as they go forward with the MCU on Disney+.

The big surprises for me over the series were the actors. Hailee Steinfeld did a great job. Alaqua Cox was very good, though I think they gave her a bit too much for a young actor to handle in the finale. Vincent D'Onofrio was fantastic. Hell, even Fra Fee (Kazi) did a good job.

Marvel and Star Wars cast very well on their Disney + shows.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 8:40 am to
The back of the watch indicates that Clint’s wife was in SHIELD. She was Mockingbird. In the comics, she married Hawkeye

Clint, though, will be in the market for a new bbq grill, assuming that suit melts.
This post was edited on 12/22/21 at 8:41 am
Posted by WeBleedCrimson
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:28 am to
Fantastic finale!

Yeah, no way in hell Kingpin is dead. He will be back
Posted by CAD703X
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Posted on 12/22/21 at 10:43 am to
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They better not have killed Kingpin like that.
of course he's not dead. the shots happened off screen for a reason.
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