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Harry Potter would get waxed by Voldemort

Posted on 1/2/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 8:53 pm
Watching the HBO special. I am reminded by the ending to these movies and something that bothers me even though it was a nice way to wrap up the films.

There’s no way in hell that Harry is outdueling Voldemort 1v1. Voldemort was one of the greatest wizards in history. Potter was average at best. Change my mind.

ETA: after Dumbledore was gone, Voldemort basically had the equivalent of a Clemson ACC path to the playoffs
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57477 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 8:58 pm to
OP likes the male penis
Posted by TechTiger
Running an easy 10
Member since Feb 2007
1374 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:00 pm to
quote:

OP likes the male penis


As opposed to the female penis?….
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
29098 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:04 pm to
Harry wasn’t going to die no matter what (other than the basilisk) because he was a Horocrux until the last 30 minutes/few chapters. The only other time they were face to face and dueling was at the end of GoF.

He basically had to survive until the snake was dead and by then he knew he was in control of the Elder Wand and Voldemort wasn’t going to beat him with a wand anyways.

Besides that, Harry always admitted he was lucky and had help.

Well that’s enough being a complete loser for now. I’m going to go watch football and stare at my wife’s boobs or something
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:09 pm to
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As opposed to the female penis?…


Hogwarts knows that answer
This post was edited on 1/2/22 at 9:09 pm
Posted by tigerbacon
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2010
3721 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:10 pm to
Your must of not read the books. The reason Harry won was because he was the true owner of the wand Voldemort was using. Technically wand belong to drako after Albert and Harry took drako’s wand thus making the elder wand allegiance to Harry. So final battle Harry casted a dearming spell and bounce Voldemort spell back at him. Voldemort essentially casted the spell that hit him
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57477 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:12 pm to
I take it back

You like the male penis
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
9434 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:15 pm to
Harry is chosen by Voldemort marking him to be his equal. He chose Harry based on the prophecy by Sybill Trelawney. The prophecy fit two children, Harry Potter & Neville Longbottom but Voldemort chose Harry. And thus Harry became the chosen one.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:18 pm to
quote:

Your must of not read the books. The reason Harry won was because he was the true owner of the wand Voldemort was using. Technically wand belong to drako after Albert and Harry took drako’s wand thus making the elder wand allegiance to Harry


quote:

until the snake was dead and by then he knew he was in control of the Elder Wand and Voldemort wasn’t going to beat him with a wand anyways


You must not have read my post.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28900 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 9:36 pm to
which I really hate. So all the times people disarmed snape didn't make him lose control of his wand?

disarming should not grant the same change in power as killing.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14812 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:00 pm to
Question: Does Harry ever get his GOAT Wizard moment like a certain Jedi deservedly got his Badass Jedi Moment in the Mandolorian?

I just re-watched the Lord of the Rings Trilogy (the almost-12-hour extended cut was fantastic, btw) and now I'm considering investing a lot of time in the Harry Potter series.

I only saw 3 of them, and Potter never had that "Neo/The One" type of badass realization/transformation in the ones I watched (I think movies 1,3 & 5). It'd be cool to have something to look forward to with his great-wizard arc that was promised in the first movie, if I'm gonna invest the time.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
24151 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:02 pm to
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which I really hate. So all the times people disarmed snape didn't make him lose control of his wand?

disarming should not grant the same change in power as killing.



It is a pretty big loophole in that universe, especially since they did a lot of that in practice.

Maybe the wand knows intent?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36166 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Harry won was because he was the true owner of the wand Voldemort was using


They showed this in the movie
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31694 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 10:17 pm to
Pretty sure their duel wasn’t as extended in the books as it is in the movie. It’s pretty clearly established Harry is a good wizard with flashes of greatness but he isn’t on Voldemort or Dumbledore’s level. Those two are absolute prodigies. Once in a generation type talents that excelled in every area of magic but also had the drive to be great and do more than just live and have friends and be productive.

Harry, with their kind of drive, still probably doesn’t get on their level but he gets close. But that’s the thing. Harry NEVER wanted to be powerful and to be an extraordinary wizard that would be remembered and change magic. He just wanted to be normal. Have some friends, get a girl, play some Quidditch, do the right thing. He didn’t really have a lot of goals and ambitions outside of staying alive.

So yeah, of course Harry, a teenager, would get destroyed. As an adult though, it would have been a much more interesting fight. I’m willing to bet fully adult Harry was probably on par with Snape, who was probably the strongest not named Dumbledore or Voldy. Hell, he was one of the few wizards to have mastered flight without a broom, which only Voldy could do.
Posted by Boring
Member since Feb 2019
3792 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:13 pm to
Girlfriend just watched the entire series for the first time (unrelated to whatever anniversary special); I hadn’t seen it in years.

I agree it’s overall pretty lame. Great magical world and everything, but an entire society based around a random magical high school and a “chosen one” who is kinda mediocre at everything except catching balls in his mouth is dumb.

The books were fun to read as a kid (the intended audience, duh), but adults who base their lives around a Harry Potter obsession are fricking weird.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18689 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:10 am to
quote:

Question: Does Harry ever get his GOAT Wizard moment like a certain Jedi deservedly got his Badass Jedi Moment in the Mandolorian?


His story arc feels more akin to Frodo than anyone in a Star Wars film or TV series.

Harry serves a purpose and figures out what he has to do in order to prevail. He never really had a moment where he achieves some final form level of skill or power.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5391 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 1:32 am to
Harry would totally get waxed by Voldemort. Except that Voldemort accidentally made him a horcux.

That’s not a take. That’s common knowledge.

BTW the movies ruined the end by not giving the final duel justice. It should have been in the Great Hall with everyone watching. The book version was amazing. It’s exposited Harry’s understanding of what was happening and how he figured out how to kill Voldemort as Harry taunts Voldemort.

In the movie no one even sees Voldy die. I was let down.
Posted by Bama Shadow
Member since Jan 2009
576 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:44 am to
I just want to know why the elder wand didn't belong to Voldemort after he killed Harry the first time if it was Harry's wand. Wouldn't it have changed allegiance once Voldemort killed Harry ?
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14812 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:30 am to
quote:

His story arc feels more akin to Frodo than anyone in a Star Wars film or TV series.


Thanks. That perspective helps.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
5888 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:02 am to
quote:

BTW the movies ruined the end by not giving the final duel justice. It should have been in the Great Hall with everyone watching. The book version was amazing. It’s exposited Harry’s understanding of what was happening and how he figured out how to kill Voldemort as Harry taunts Voldemort


And this was the greatest injustice the movies ever did. Harry walked in to the great hall knowing the result coming up and went all Obi Wan "I have the high ground" on Voldemort. Actually, it's more of a Vegeta attitude from DBZ.

Harry died to protect everyone at Hogwarts, so in the end of the book... It was a duel in the great hall and every Voldemort spell casted was missing the students and teachers because of this. It was the same protection his mom gave him. Voldemort could no longer kill anyone that Harry knew... And Harry knew this. And he taunted him about it.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 6:03 am
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