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re: GoT Spiral symbol by the night king

Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:20 pm to
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 4:20 pm to
Maybe the night king was a targaryen, and that's the version of his flag as best he remembers it. A bastardized version of the dragon sigil.
Posted by Decisions
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:44 pm to
As others have said, it was a Children of the Forest symbol first. The question is the significance of it to them.

Check out this one that was drawn in the cave on Dragonstone:



Notice the circle at the middle of the spiral. What does that remind you of? It reminds me of two things actually: a drain and an eye.

First let’s discuss the drain, for it leads to the other. Where in Westeros do we have a largely landlocked body of water that many rivers/streams likely drain into?

That would be the Gods’ Eye lake.



And what is sitting in the middle of that lake? Why the Isle of Faces, of course. The most sacred sanctuary of the Children of the Forest, littered with weirwood trees, where the Pact was made between them and the First Men and where the Green Men still stand guard.

This is the Endgame, folks. The Night King doesn’t give a damn about humans. Not really. He’s after the Children of the Forest and their sacred font of power on the Isle.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 7:26 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 6:47 pm to
He’s not a Targaryen. They showed that he was one of the First Men and in that very scene that same design was shown on a aerial view.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:06 pm to
Can you remind of the scene? I just don’t remember.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:20 pm to

Posted by Lima Whiskey
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:21 pm to
Thank you
Posted by InwardJim
Member since Dec 2018
656 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 7:22 pm to
quote:

Does anyone know anything about the spiral or its significance with the Night king.



Posted by Skeezer
Member since Apr 2017
2296 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 8:39 pm to
I am willing to bet that the godwood at winterfell was where he was stabbed. That tree is getting demolished when he takes winterfell.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:47 pm to
The NK is a miserable person ... I mean he has dragon glass embedded in his chest for frick’s sake.

And he’s pissed at the little nymphs who gave him one wicked case of indigestion for all these years.

He’s just sending a signal that he’s out for revenge because of them.

Question is ... who is he after, who is he blaming, what is his goal. It’s obviously not just conquest, it’s revenge. It’s payback.

He’s sending a message and someone knows what it means.

Someone is in the NK’s sights. Not some place but some-one.

Who?
Posted by Matisyeezy
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:02 pm to
quote:

And what is sitting in the middle of that lake? Why the Isle of Faces, of course. The most sacred sanctuary of the Children of the Forest, littered with weirwood trees, where the Pact was made between them and the First Men and where the Green Men still stand guard.

This is the Endgame, folks. The Night King doesn’t give a damn about humans. Not really. He’s after the Children of the Forest and their sacred font of power on the Isle.



Damn. This is a theory. I can totally see this. I'm not shocked if anything is right or wrong anymore, but this I can get behind.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Member since Nov 2011
63454 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 11:42 pm to
quote:

And what is sitting in the middle of that lake? Why the Isle of Faces, of course. The most sacred sanctuary of the Children of the Forest, littered with weirwood trees, where the Pact was made between them and the First Men and where the Green Men still stand guard.

This is the Endgame, folks. The Night King doesn’t give a damn about humans. Not really. He’s after the Children of the Forest and their sacred font of power on the Isle.


Damn. This is a theory. I can totally see this. I'm not shocked if anything is right or wrong anymore, but this I can get behind.

^^^^^^
Posted by BOSCEAUX
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Member since Mar 2008
52399 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 12:27 am to
Didn’t the COTF create the Night King as a weapon against the first men and then lost control of him?

I agree it’s about revenge against them but also Bran because isn’t the 3ER basically a protector/ally of the children.

Speaking of the COTF are there even any left after the Night King took out OG Raven at the hollow tree.
Posted by lakeviewtiger
BC
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:11 am to
I wonder if this is why he has children hanging up? The little girl in season one and umber demon baby in season 8?

Posted by GatorReb
Dallas GA
Member since Feb 2009
9425 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 6:54 am to
If I remember correctly the NK was created to protect the CoTF from Men. I think that spiral is a ToTF symbol and the NK used it originally as like a “stay away from here or else this will happen....Love the NK” essentially. And that’s basically all it is.

Not some grand crazy story breaking theory.
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7837 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 8:22 am to
Will he speak?
That’d be awesome
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
26713 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 9:34 am to
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i dont think it has any special significance


There are only so many designs you can make when attaching severed limbs to a wall. It was an aesthetic decision on the part of the Night King.
Posted by Esquire
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Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:02 am to
quote:

And what is sitting in the middle of that lake? Why the Isle of Faces, of course. The most sacred sanctuary of the Children of the Forest, littered with weirwood trees, where the Pact was made between them and the First Men and where the Green Men still stand guard.


Have they brought up the Isle of Faces on the show yet? That would be the only thing that hurts this theory.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70460 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Have they brought up the Isle of Faces on the show yet?


I'm not sure. I think they talked about it back in the early seasons when Arya was at Harrenhall.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Notice the circle at the middle of the spiral. What does that remind you of? It reminds me of two things actually: a drain and an eye.

First let’s discuss the drain, for it leads to the other. Where in Westeros do we have a largely landlocked body of water that many rivers/streams likely drain into?

That would be the Gods’ Eye lake.



And what is sitting in the middle of that lake? Why the Isle of Faces, of course. The most sacred sanctuary of the Children of the Forest, littered with weirwood trees, where the Pact was made between them and the First Men and where the Green Men still stand guard.

This is the Endgame, folks. The Night King doesn’t give a damn about humans. Not really. He’s after the Children of the Forest and their sacred font of power on the Isle.


I really like this crackpot theory: The Night King was created north of the Wall. We know this because Bran goes back to that tree where the Night King was created in the present and the Night King sees him. Plus the location where he was created is far too mountainous for it to be the Isle of Faces. Maybe that’s where the children draw their power from, in which case your crackpot theory could work in a variation.

But nice Crackpot theory!
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109228 posts
Posted on 4/16/19 at 11:19 am to
quote:

a drain


So, around the bowl, down the hole, roll tide roll.
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