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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD

Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by STLhog
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:41 pm to
Cersei could be pregnant and Jaime still winds up killing her and the baby.

That would be savage.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:41 pm to
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I do not like the show having Jorah come back right now and interfering with Jon and Dany. Overall a good episode, but def my least favorite ep of the season.


Well, you're a dumb dumb.
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 pm to
Gilly also said Rhaegar wrong so it's not like it's crazy that Sam missed it
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 pm to
Hmmm... lots of info to process.

Interesting concept- WE now know Jon is legit, but Sam cut her off and left. Suppose for a moment, they never revisit that? I mean, I don't think Sam really even heard what Gilly was saying. And if he stole some books to help the war effort, I doubt he takes that one; that was the one that set him over the edge.
BTW he has a little sister, and has taken the Black. Unless the Wall comes down, isn't she now Lady Tarly, and heir to the House?

Drogon knows, though. Maybe, like Dany before, the dragons are going to come to the aid of a Targaryen in need. Drogon popped in at the arena, maybe they all come rescue Jon at the Fist.

I had a disturbing thought concerning Cersei and Jaime... Cersei is like a James Bond villain, only female. Yes, Jaime is her brother, but also her lover. What happens when the villain's lover betrays them to do good?
The villain kills the lover.

Maybe Cersei kills Jaime, not the other way around
She's flat out warning him this episode.

I hope Bronn leaves KL with haste. Cersei's got him in her crosshairs now. And tactically, I can't blame her. If Tyrion has access to the Red Keep via him, they could in theory send assassins in that way too.

I thought Randyll was going to bend the knee after Dickon spoke up. Like Tyrion, I cringed a bit when Dany did that. She's getting awful close to that line.



Posted by ohiovol
Member since Jan 2010
21038 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 pm to
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Captain Friendzone is probably going to die ( ) next episode anyway. I wouldn't worry you pretty little head. They gon frick.


I don't think they would cure his greyscale only for him to die immediately.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64339 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:42 pm to
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So... Someone explain how Jon is related to Danny

Eta as in step cousins etc?


Jon is the son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
52271 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:43 pm to
Theory that Rhegar was indeed Azhor Ahai

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Azor Ahai, the prince that was promised, is Rhaegar Targaryn. That's kind of lame, since he even thought he himself was The One, but then after a while, he began to think his son was the prince that was promised. Remember that Rhaegar was born at Summerhall on the same day as when it burned down, meaning he was born amidst salt and smoke. Well, if Rhaegar is Azor Ahai, then that could mean Jon Snow is Lightbringer. Think about it. The original Azor Ahai finally tempered the sword that defeated the darkness by driving it into the heart of his lover Nissa Nissa, killing her. Rhaegar put Jon Snow (Lightbringer) into Lyanna, and when he was born, it killed her. Nissa Nissa died with a cry of anguish and ecstasy, much like Lyanna might have when birthing her only son, but knowing she would perish shortly thereafter. Now, Jon is the guy who has already been fighting the Others, and he is now in cahoots with Dany to hopefully bring her dragons (dragon fire = light) to fight the wights.

Summerhall is a very mysterious topic in the books and this is probably because it holds a great secret that's too revealing to the overall story. So, to me, that's just more fuel in the fire for this theory.

Posted by Triple Bogey
19th Green
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:43 pm to
Yea, it's been discussed since the tower of joy episode. Im just curious what Jons actual Targaryen name is.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:43 pm to
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You're ignoring the point. Regardless of the fact that it's a very popular theory, it's still a major reveal in the show to have actual written proof of the legitimacy of Jon snow



The fact that they were even there and what they said (granted not as definitive in the show), I don't think you could have any doubt that all parties there knew that the rightful king was up stairs and the Kingsguard were there to defend his birthright.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:43 pm to
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What exactly is his play, though. How does turning the sisters against each other help him?

Maybe he's trying to get Sansa to take more of a firm role?


I think to eliminate anyone who could trip him
up in his pursuit of Sansa while Jon is away. Especially now that there's a chance Jon might not make it back (in their eyes) by going North of the Wall.

All I know is he's fricking with the wrong Stark with Arya's current skill set.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13485 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
Poor Jorah. Goes through hell to get healed and returns to Dany looking healthy and strong and god damn dreamy-arse Jon Snow is there getting her panties moist.

To top it off, I'll bet next week there will be a point where Jon kills a Walker and Jorah's gonna be like "Oh awesome dude how did you do that" and realize that Jon has fricking Longclaw
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
You're in the wrong thread
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
70096 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
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I don't think they would cure his greyscale only for him to die immediately.



Sure they would
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:44 pm to
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Man, I hope Jon and Tormund aren't the only two that make it out of that battle with the wights.



The Hound has unfinished business with his brother. I think he has plot armor.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130037 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:46 pm to
The books make it pretty clear that Jon is when he's stabbed and the wounds smoke.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109119 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:46 pm to
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tommy2tone1999



Congrats, you read spoilers and posted them as your theory. I hope you get permabanned.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43444 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:46 pm to
Not sure if I support that. I prefer the three heads of the dragon theory.

I think this whole thing is and has always been about Jon.

This story will be at the end Jon's story. Almost as legendary as Aegon I's conquest.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23472 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:47 pm to
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Still took the black.


This show has proven time and again that oaths mean jack shite


did for that poor fricker in episode 1 that Ned beheaded. If Ned were alive today he'd be chopping off some mofos at the neck. Honor and all.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:48 pm to
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Dude, you're the only person to feel that way.



I have to say I am a bit surprised given Episode 2's reaction. As I read on, yeah I had to conclude people aren't sharing my opinion on this. Whatever, I still think Cersei's pregnancy/Jaime making out with her again is the second worst moment on the show. I don't think it's a bottom 10 episode, but that's a bottom moment.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:48 pm to
It was nice to see LF playing Arya, he hasn't looked like himself in a while. For those thinking Arya might know, the post show comments said LF is doing this to drive a wedge between Arya and Sansa. They've never needed much help creating friction with each other and after the dressing down Arya gave Sansa at the beginning of the episode, there's no way she doesn't confront Sansa about it.

I assume they confirmed Jon being legit for more than just the audience's benefit. Surely that book will be with the stuff Sam took. Right now Sam has no reason for Raegar getting an annulment to trigger anything. As far as he is concerned Jon is Ned's son. When they're all back at Winterfell and Bran tells Jon then he's going to get it. People are forgetting, we know more than Sam knows at this point. Bran is the only person in Westeros that knows the truth, except perhaps Varys.

As far as everyone thinking the Magnificent 7 will have to be saved by a dragon, I think it's going to be more like "I don't have to out run the bear, I just have to out run you." and some people are going down. If I had to guess Jon, Gendry, Tormund and the Hound are the only ones that are safe for sure.
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