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Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:48 pm to 50_Tiger
Sorry if already discussed, but what betrayal was Cersei referring to with Jaime?
He met with Tyrion without knowing that the meeting was set up and then he seemed to have come out and told her about the meeting right away. Where was he betrayal?
Was it letting Tyrion go I guess? But if Jaime killed or captured Tyrion then Tyrion could never return and allow Cersei to carry out whatever duck and dodge clever plan she is developing.
He met with Tyrion without knowing that the meeting was set up and then he seemed to have come out and told her about the meeting right away. Where was he betrayal?
Was it letting Tyrion go I guess? But if Jaime killed or captured Tyrion then Tyrion could never return and allow Cersei to carry out whatever duck and dodge clever plan she is developing.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:49 pm to OMLandshark
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I think that's definitive proof.
Just because we've debated it for countless hours, doesn't mean we had anything definitive. Hell, we didn't even have anything definitive that he was Rhaegar and Lyanna's
son (though STRONGLY suspected) until it was revealed in Bran's flashback on the show.
There were always the folks who thought he was just a bastard. Confirmed legitimacy is a whole other matter that was suspected but never confirmed until now.
I'm still processing he fact he didn't remain married to Ellia Martell and annulled that marriage. That brings a whole other wrinkle I don't think any of us suspected. We all assumed it was a typical Targaryen polygamous marriage.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:49 pm to 50_Tiger
Howlin Reed is the only other character to know Jons true heritage.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:49 pm to OMLandshark
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fact that they were even there and what they said (granted not as definitive in the show), I don't think you could have any doubt that all parties there knew that the rightful king was up stairs and the Kingsguard were there to defend his birthright.
In context of the show, the TOJ scene was witness by an all seeing raven boy who most are skeptical of. That is not proof to anyone in Westeros.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:49 pm to theGarnetWay
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Sorry if already discussed, but what betrayal was Cersei referring to with Jaime?
Nothing in reality, she just looked at his meeting as a "betrayal", which I'm sure alarms Jaime to an extent.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:50 pm to ohiovol
I think that's exactly his play. And I'm thinking Sansa still doesn't trust him but Arya was right, she does like having power. She's a Cersei clone
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 pm to theGarnetWay
Jaimie actually talking to Tyrion.
Cersei condemned him for that and told him don't let it happen again.
I think we also need to discuss wtf is going to happen to Bronn. Cersei asked Jaimie to handle it.
Cersei condemned him for that and told him don't let it happen again.
I think we also need to discuss wtf is going to happen to Bronn. Cersei asked Jaimie to handle it.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 pm to OMLandshark
Why do y'all think Jorah will recognize the sword? The handle got re-carved and everything right?
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 pm to wildtigercat93
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Yes every plot line that doesn't follow your predetermined fanfic is quite ridiculous
I just want Jaime to act reasonable. Cersei killed 5,000 people to save her own skin in the same manner Jaime killed the Mad King for, which additionally led to their son's death. This isn't fan fic but shite that happened in the books. There's no question Book Jaime wouldn't have killed Cersei by now.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 pm to tiger2012
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This is the beginning of the redemption, the start of turning Cersei to the good. This series will end with her as a sympathetic character.
It looks D&D will first have westeros band together to deal with the Night King and the ice people.
Opposite. She's going to try and pull off a Red Wedding and get herself killed.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:51 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:any open wound will smoke in the cold like that
The books make it pretty clear that Jon is when he's stabbed and the wounds smoke.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:52 pm to JCdawg
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Howlin Reed is the only other character to know Jons true heritage.
Pretty sure Bran knows
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:53 pm to Fun Bunch
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You're in the wrong thread
No frick off
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:54 pm to 50_Tiger
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Jaimie actually talking to Tyrion.
Cersei condemned him for that and told him don't let it happen again.
I think we also need to discuss wtf is going to happen to Bronn. Cersei asked Jaimie to handle it.
GUYS! This means Bronn is back at Kings Landing. The last sand snake is in the cell and he COULD save her. That would be amazing!
They havent shown her dead yet so she might still have a chance.
This post was edited on 8/13/17 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:54 pm to Byron Bojangles III
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any open wound will smoke in the cold like that
Yes. That's kind of the point.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:54 pm to OMLandshark
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The Hound has unfinished business with his brother. I think he has plot armor.
If they do end up meeting Cersei then Mountian will be there with her.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:55 pm to jrowla2
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GUYS! This means Bronn is back at Kings Landing. The last sand snake is in the cell and he COULD save her. That would be amazing
It's been at least a week if not more by now. She ded.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:55 pm to HailToTheChiz
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No frick off
That's rich coming from the person who actually should frick off, because they are in the wrong thread.
This is a thread for book readers. You are clearly not from asking such a retarded and basic question.
Posted on 8/13/17 at 9:55 pm to wildtigercat93
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She can feel Jamie slipping from her control. She uses a false pregnancy to regain his commitment to her.
I'm really hoping this is the case. It seems to be a jumping the shark moment otherwise, and extremely cruel if he goes through with the predominant theory of him killing her.
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