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Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:01 am to boXerrumble
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WTF.
First they ruin Jaime's arc, and now they're gonna go and do this shite?
But were your expectations subverted?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:03 am to boXerrumble
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First they ruin Jaime's arc
how have they ruined Jamie's arc?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:04 am to 1BamaRTR
A little more detail-
Besides it belonging to Visenya, it was one of two Targaryen Valeryan steel swords along with Blackfyre. The Targaryens were the only family with two such swords before Tywin had Ice melted and reforged into Widow’s Wail and Oathkeeper.
Other people to wield Dark Sister included Prince Daemon, husband of Queen Rhaneyra Targaryen, and Brynden Rivers, known as Bloodraven, who was the guy plugged into the Wierwood that Bran met.
Rivers was a High Bastard, Targaryen on one side and Blackwood (of northern descent) on the other, which is supposed to be why he had his powers. Which is supposed to be foreshadowing of Jon’s abilities in addition to warging into Ghost.
Dark Sister disappeared at some point in Bloodraven’s life, as is believed he brought it to The Wall with him when he got exiled after the crowning of Aegon V (Egg), Dany’s great grandfather.
The other sword, Blackfyre, was awarded to Daemon Blackfyre, another High Bastard son of Aegon IV, and was wielded by most of the Blackfyre pretenders during their rebellions. Bloodraven’s mission in life was generally to counter the Blackfyre rebellions and what got him exiled to the Wall was him killing a Blackfyre who tried to attend a Grand Council to choose the next king under a flag of truce.
Both swords showing up again would be a significant plot point, especially since there are two Targaryens on the show right now (Dany and Jon) and a third (Aegon VI) in the books who is suspected of being a Blackfyre pretender because he is supported by the Golden Company.
Besides it belonging to Visenya, it was one of two Targaryen Valeryan steel swords along with Blackfyre. The Targaryens were the only family with two such swords before Tywin had Ice melted and reforged into Widow’s Wail and Oathkeeper.
Other people to wield Dark Sister included Prince Daemon, husband of Queen Rhaneyra Targaryen, and Brynden Rivers, known as Bloodraven, who was the guy plugged into the Wierwood that Bran met.
Rivers was a High Bastard, Targaryen on one side and Blackwood (of northern descent) on the other, which is supposed to be why he had his powers. Which is supposed to be foreshadowing of Jon’s abilities in addition to warging into Ghost.
Dark Sister disappeared at some point in Bloodraven’s life, as is believed he brought it to The Wall with him when he got exiled after the crowning of Aegon V (Egg), Dany’s great grandfather.
The other sword, Blackfyre, was awarded to Daemon Blackfyre, another High Bastard son of Aegon IV, and was wielded by most of the Blackfyre pretenders during their rebellions. Bloodraven’s mission in life was generally to counter the Blackfyre rebellions and what got him exiled to the Wall was him killing a Blackfyre who tried to attend a Grand Council to choose the next king under a flag of truce.
Both swords showing up again would be a significant plot point, especially since there are two Targaryens on the show right now (Dany and Jon) and a third (Aegon VI) in the books who is suspected of being a Blackfyre pretender because he is supported by the Golden Company.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:06 am to teke184
These leaks are so much better than the other leaks.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:08 am to Jake_LaMotta
The dragon obviously levels the playing field.
And I think Dany’s army is supposed to be around the same size not 1/3.
And I think Dany’s army is supposed to be around the same size not 1/3.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:09 am to Salmon
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:11 am to Tiger1242
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A. Why the hell would Tyrion help Cersei?
B. Why the hell would Cersei accept Tryion's help?
A. Because tyrion is an alcoholic lanister with chronic self esteem issues, who's never wanted anything more than validation from his family and casterly rock.
B. Because Cersei can just as easily manipulate tyrion as she can jaime.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:12 am to Pandy Fackler
TEKE184 is clearly a Reddit reader and re-poster.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:12 am to teke184
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:13 am to CoachDon
I don’t Reddit for GOT. I scour the hell out of TV tropes and I’m in the process of re-reading the five main books.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:15 am to Salmon
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how have they ruined Jamie's arc?
Ask me in two episodes.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:16 am to SammyTiger
It shouldn’t be around the same size with how many they lost at Winterfell. But apparently she lost only half the Unsullied and Dorthraki. I hate that the Dorne line was a just probably a throwaway. Their army should be a massive boost to Dany’s.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:16 am to boXerrumble
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WTF.
First they ruin Jaime's arc, and now they're gonna go and do this shite?
Right now, jaime's arc is the only one that's come full circle and been perfected.
I think he's going back to attempt a reconcile with Cersei. He's rediscovering who and what he really is and what his true motivations really are.
He's a true blue lanister.
I like very much what he said when he first arrived in winterfell and what he said to brianne when he left.
It was all true. He told no lies.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:18 am to 50_Tiger
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But were your expectations subverted?
It’s weird because D&D and GRRM have said the endings won’t be that different. They basically agree on the same fates for the major plot points and main characters? But GRRM wouldn’t do this to Tyrion and Jaime? Right?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:19 am to Pandy Fackler
If the lanisters regroup together, this shouldn't shock or surprise anyone. In fact, it would be a welcomed closure to the lanister story.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:19 am to wildtigercat93
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These leaks are so much better than the other leaks.
But do they actually contradict the other leaks?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:20 am to 50_Tiger
So Tyrion betrays Dany after he said he wouldn’t and Jon then turns on Tyrion? That’s pretty lame but definitely a way for Tyrion to get himself and Varys executed
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:21 am to ohiovol
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It’s weird because D&D and GRRM have said the endings won’t be that different. They basically agree on the same fates for the major plot points and main characters? But GRRM wouldn’t do this to Tyrion and Jaime? Right?
It is the quick turns that will throw people off.
Even if these were/are the characters fates in the books, their emotions/reasons will be fleshed out far more in the books (LOL)
Posted on 5/8/19 at 10:24 am to WicKed WayZ
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So Tyrion betrays Dany after he said he wouldn’t and Jon then turns on Tyrion? That’s pretty lame but definitely a way for Tyrion to get himself and Varys executed
“How do I stop Dany from burning the city? By burning it down first!” - Tyrion Lannister
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