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re: Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery on Netflix today
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:41 am to 3nOut
Posted on 12/25/22 at 11:41 am to 3nOut
Yeah I agree with that.
It was unique from the first, in setting obviously, and especially with the “murder” that needs solving actually happening in the past, not at the murder mystery party.
That was well done and a solid twist.
It was unique from the first, in setting obviously, and especially with the “murder” that needs solving actually happening in the past, not at the murder mystery party.
That was well done and a solid twist.
This post was edited on 12/25/22 at 11:42 am
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Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:37 pm to Tiger Voodoo
I loved the Magnolia reference.
Agree with SFP that this tried to outdo the original and as a result, it wasn’t as good.
Also I really wonder when this was written because the public perception (and likely Rian Johnson’s perception) of Elon Musk has changed so much. However if this was written in the early months of the pandemic, then I think the Ed Norton/Musk connection is more tenuous and is likely to be a broader tech founder stereotype.
Agree with SFP that this tried to outdo the original and as a result, it wasn’t as good.
Also I really wonder when this was written because the public perception (and likely Rian Johnson’s perception) of Elon Musk has changed so much. However if this was written in the early months of the pandemic, then I think the Ed Norton/Musk connection is more tenuous and is likely to be a broader tech founder stereotype.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 12:51 pm to TIGERSTORM
This movie smells it’s own fart like no other
Posted on 12/25/22 at 1:12 pm to hg
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This movie smells it’s own fart like no other
Don't Look Up asks you to reconsider.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 3:51 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Frank TJ Mackey wannabe
By far the best part of the entire movie
Posted on 12/25/22 at 4:47 pm to Tigerfan56
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I guess we’re conveniently leaving out that the main protagonist of the film series is a straight white man? But that doesn’t fit your victim mentality agenda, I guess.
stop reading after this.... LOL
Posted on 12/25/22 at 5:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
Compared to most of the trash that’s came out since covid, i enjoyed. Would recommend and will watch again
Posted on 12/25/22 at 6:59 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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where the straight white guy wasn’t a bumbling idiot man child
did you even watch the movie. Daniel Craigs character was the smartest guy in the movie and solved the murder
Posted on 12/25/22 at 7:26 pm to TIGERSTORM
This one missed the mark for me. Incorporating the lockdowns and masks was a wrong decision. People don’t want to be reminded of that. It was also pretty obvious who the killer was early on; we just had to wait to see it unfold. Also, the idea of the group of disrupters didn’t feel organic. You had to turn your brain off to accept that shoehorned plot.
Worth the watch, but I enjoyed Knives Out, and this one didn’t live up to those expectations for me.
Black and gay save the day over the evil white man! Edgy.
Worth the watch, but I enjoyed Knives Out, and this one didn’t live up to those expectations for me.
Black and gay save the day over the evil white man! Edgy.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 7:36 pm to Corinthians420
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where the straight white guy wasn’t a bumbling idiot man child
did you even watch the movie. Daniel Craigs character was the smartest guy in the movie and solved the murder
This can't be real.
Posted on 12/25/22 at 8:13 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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It was alright
About right.
Wouldn't waste my time on it
Posted on 12/25/22 at 10:26 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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mean let’s face it, in the real world and in real life 99% of the time the straight white guy is the smartest one in the room or being the hero in a war or dragging a baby out of a burning building while the sassy black woman is selling newports at the gas station or stamping forms at the DMV.
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And that’s because they are really the ones who live in a political bubble, not random posters on tiger droppings.
Hollywood definitely lives in a bubble. But based on what you typed as your view of white and black people, you live in a bubble as well. Just a redneck version of it.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:31 am to 3nOut
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I felt like this one definitely had its own direction in a good way. I loved the old dark manor in the first one (I would live in a house like that) but was really glad they didn’t rely on that being the gimmick of the second. This one was bright and glitzy with very different characters than the first.
I mean the setting changed and the source of wealth changed, but the setup (group of sycophants of a rich person) was exactly the same.
Hopefully the paradigm shifts from a central rich guy and a group of supplicants.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 7:42 am to skullhawk
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Incorporating the lockdowns and masks was a wrong decision. People don’t want to be reminded of that.
I mean they kind of made fun of it.
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It was also pretty obvious who the killer was early on; we just had to wait to see it unfold.
Yeah I think ole RJ went through his "let's be subversive" phase again.
Also, after thinking about it (and I probably shouldn't think about a movie of this quality this much), this movie just replaced a lot of good depth with glitz and pizazz. Like, in the original you had lots of organic conflicts all over the place, from the dual investigation to the intra-familial issues, to the family v. Marta, in stark contrast to the very well done scenes of connectivity between Marta and the old man. This new movie just lacked ALL of that. It was very surface level and they tried to shift focus from quality by making the characters even more over the top.
The characters and conflict (maybe not the "murder") in the first one are very realistic and they explore a lot of depth of the web of conflict with the family. This new one literally has none of that. In its place, you get a mid-movie reveal that one character is a twin sister, with a flashback of mid-movie exposition to explain what the frick is going on. This is the biggest indicator of differences in quality between the movies, because you didn't need this in the first to understand the web of conflict of the characters with relationship to the patriarch.
Then RJ tops it off with a subversive cherry on top where the killer is the obvious guy and the murder was completely uninteresting. BET YOU DIDN'T EXPECT THAT. HA! Then, to compensate for the absolute dud of an ending, RJ literally has to resort to Michael Baying shite up with CGI explosions to give some sort of (fake) energy to the ending.
I revise my original review and give this like a 5/10. 2.5 of those 5 points are due to the Frank Mackey reference, also.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 8:37 am to TIGERSTORM
I enjoyed the absurdity of this movie and thought it was a lot of fun. I don’t really see this as woke. If anything they are making fun of the douchey tech bro types who usually tend to be democrats. Also you have a hypocritical democratic senate candidate selling her soul for money, an Asian red pilled twitch streamer, a clueless model/fashion designer. It seemed like they were more calling out certain types of out of touch rich people by showing what happens when you put them all together on an island. Someone pointed out that it is unlikely that these people would all be friends and I think that is the point. It’s just a bunch of awful people who have nothing in common with each other other than that they are awful and selfish and they think that makes them pioneers. If you watch this movie and feel personally attacked then you might be as douchey as they are.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:48 am to Tigerfan56
Actually, what gets me is this:
People are complaining when the two SOUTHERN people (the Louisiana detective and the Alabama teacher) outsmart a group of Northern and Western elites.
Or was I the only one who caught that?
People are complaining when the two SOUTHERN people (the Louisiana detective and the Alabama teacher) outsmart a group of Northern and Western elites.
Or was I the only one who caught that?
Posted on 12/26/22 at 10:58 am to QC Reb
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Someone pointed out that it is unlikely that these people would all be friends
They didn’t really seem to be friends, all just awful people that are only friends with Miles because of his money. It’s actually stated multiple times that they don’t give a frick about Miles but only stay by him for his funding
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:00 am to taylork37
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Do you need to see the first Knives Out to understand or enjoy this one?
No but you should watch that one instead. It’s much better, this one it’s obvious who the killer will turn out to be
Posted on 12/26/22 at 11:15 am to H-Town Tiger
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No but you should watch that one instead. It’s much better, this one it’s obvious who the killer will turn out to be
To be fair, I remember a common complaint of the first one was that the killer was too obvious.
Posted on 12/26/22 at 12:44 pm to H-Town Tiger
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No but you should watch that one instead. It’s much better, this one it’s obvious who the killer will turn out to be
I always liked that it was less the "who" and more the "how".
They definitely aim to make it obvious and then make you second guess yourself.
Ultimately I think it's a comedy first, a "Whodunit" second, rather than the other way around.
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