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re: Game of Thrones S8 E5 "The Long Melt." Official Thread

Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:29 pm to
Posted by John McClane
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:29 pm to
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So 2 episodes worth of stuff means more than 8 seasons worth?


What point were you trying to make here?

Yes, the past 2 episodes confirmed clues pointing to her descent into madness over the course of the last 7.5 seasons.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:30 pm to
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She enjoyed watching her brother die.

debatable. plus, he "deserved" it.
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She enjoyed killing the masters

deserved it
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She enjoyed killing the Dothraki who opposed her

You mean the people who were forcing her into widow slavery?
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She enjoyed killing those who didn’t “bend the knee”

Did you pull this one out of your arse? Examples?

0 of you were talking this shite back then. She was Elsa with little titties and a dragon.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:31 pm to
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I sincerely hope nobody was so blind and stupid to not see what Danny was going to do tonight. Her actions should surprise nobody
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:31 pm to
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Yes, the past 2 episodes confirmed clues pointing to her descent into madness over the course of the last 7.5 seasons.


Yes. Killing a couple bros who wouldn’t bend the knee is a major indicator of someone who is on the brink of committing genocide.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:31 pm to
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She freed slaves, helped the oppressed, stopped savages from raping people, etc


You’re right. She did do all those things.

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but then she just burned an entire city of innocent people, not as collateral damage, but after the fight was over.


Have you honestly not seen her ruthless side before tonight?

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A bell rang and she went crazy. It was terrrrribbblleeeeeeeee


The crazy has been coming for a while. You should have seen it long before the bell rang.
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:31 pm to
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Yeah, you definitely haven’t been paying attention.


I’ve read all the books 3x. I don’t post during episodes so I can catch everything. You apologists can keep parroting the “it was so obvious” bullshite, but anyone with a brain knows that this is an utter betrayal. I feel bad for Emilia Clarke
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:32 pm to
Pretty big tell last episode when Tyrion begged her not to kill innocents, she said they should rebel, he said they are afraid, she did not concede his point
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:33 pm to
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Millions of people die a year because someone is pissy.





Elaborate?
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:33 pm to
The episode itself is a cool spectacle and had some cool moments.

But Dany doing what she did made no sense. Arya has been saying Cersei's name as she goes to bed and just walking around for years. Her entire MO has been killing Cersei. She becomes this incredibly overpowered killer and is moving to do that. She has one conversation with the Hound and randomly decides to abandon that? Then she runs terrified through the streets after showing no fear for years? She literally just stabbed Death in the chest last episode. They transformed Tyrion into one of the show's stupidest character.

Then you just have minor details like a few weeks ago, Jon could hide behind a rock and be safe from Viserion's fire. This episode, Drogon's fire is a laser beam that cuts through everything but is delicate enough to give some people only first degree burns on side of their face? The scorpions all of a sudden are completely useless. We evened the odds with a terribly contrived killing of a dragon, but the odds weren't even evened out at all? I just don't get what they're doing at all.
Posted by GeauxTigers2020
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:34 pm to
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I feel bad for Emilia Clarke


That clip of her painfully saying "best season ever" makes sooooooo much sense now. I wish I won her omaze contest so I could go watch the screening next week and then hear her actual thoughts of the ending.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:34 pm to
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Y'all are really overthinking this one. The Hound knocked some sense into her. Cersei was dead anyway. And the only thing Arya would have been running toward was her own death - and she once again said "not today"



The driving force behind Arya becoming who she is today is her list. Everytime her life seems hopeless in the middle seasons, she starts reciting her list to remind herself what she’s working towards.

Cersei has been at the top of that list ever since Joffrey died. She’s been telling random people she’s never met before for multiple seasons now that she was “going to kill the queen”

That drive led her through starvation, blindness, homelessness, torture, and near-death experiences.

And now when it finally comes time to do the only thing she’s been focusing on for several years, she decides not to because somebody she knows she’s better than tells her Cersei is going to die anyway?

This doesn’t even take into consideration her complete disregard for her own well-being just 2 episodes ago when she fought a hundred zombies, and then attacked the night king, all by herself.

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It's not that she couldn't have killed Cersei but it would have cost her her life.


When the hound is leaving winterfell and Arya catches up to him, he tells her he’s not coming back. She says she isn’t either. You think she’s planning on just roaming the streets of Kings landing after she kills Cersei? No, she believed she was heading to her own death.

Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:35 pm to
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blueboy


I’m sorry you were too stupid to not see this coming. Maybe if you pay attention, perhaps go back to season one and have someone watch it with you to help explain things that you’ve obviously missed?
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:35 pm to
“I’ve read the books”

These ain’t the books son.

Honestly she’s has had a charmed life in Essos. Gaining power, allies and admiration.

She’s had the opposite happen in Westeros.

Jorah died.
Missandei died
2/3 of her children died
The man she loves won’t love her back, and won’t even keep a secret.

She’s solved every problem by burning people alive. Everyone. She watched Drogo kill her brother. She killed the with. She burn the Master who sold her the unsullied. She crucifies the Maesters. She threatens all the nobles of that other city with the dragons. She burnt all the Khals alive.

Has she solved any problems without burning someone alive?
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:36 pm to
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Jon could hide behind a rock and be safe from Viserion's fire. This episode, Drogon's fire is a laser beam that cuts through everything but is delicate enough to give some people only first degree burns on side of their face?


I also was wondering when fire became powerful enough to literally explode brick.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:36 pm to
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You don’t build a character to be one thing for 7 seasons and then have them do a ridiculous heel turn in 2 episodes


I disagree with you. They have absolutely built her character up to be on thing in 7 seasons and that is a loved and merciful ruler. She found out the hard way that no one wanted her in Westeros and she can't handle it. She has been treated her whole life as she was destined to be in the throne only to see that no one wants her and there is another heir that is more legitimate that her. She has lost everyone that she loved. She was already too emotional is Meeren with the slaves and such. She is just an entirely emotional person that didn't get what she wanted in Westeros. She was always mad but was kept in check because she got exactly what she wanted.

I think her arc is justified.

I can't excuse the following.

Jaime dying the way he did. What a bitch move and a total ruining of his arc.

Clegane bowl sucked major dick.

Euron was a bitch in the show but he died like a little bitch too. How magical that he turned up where Jaime was.

Varys went out terrible just like Littlefinger.

What is the point of Arya now except to kill Dany? Why would she do it anyway, it's Jon's job now. She could have at least doused the Mountain with fire or stunned him enough for the Hound to douse him.

Let her and the Hound be vagabonds for the remainder of her life.

This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 11:39 pm
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:37 pm to
Sorry if this has been covered, but now that we understand Dany is the "final boss" rather than Cersei, who kills her? Arya? Jon?
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:37 pm to
I’ve read the books the same amount as you. You are just willfully blind to where her arc was always meant to end.

The worst possible scenario would have been Dany as some benevolent ruler loved by all. She’s a Targaryen with dragons. How fricking naive are you?
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:37 pm to
1st amazing episode all season.
Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:37 pm to
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I’ve read the books”


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These ain’t the books son.


LMAO

So the source material doesn’t matter?
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:38 pm to
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What is the point of Arya now except to kill Dany?


Arya’s story is done bro. Why do you think they had the slow shot of her galloping away on a way horse leaving death and destruction behind?

Jon is taking on Dany
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