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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:08 am to ell_13
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:08 am to ell_13
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He for sure isn't making it. He's not plotting anything anymore. He's basically just a quip machine with Tyrion at this point.
I don’t know how it will happen. I suppose the little birds will have something to do with it. Maybe Varys trying to get them back and Qyburn having them kill him?
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:08 am to CBandits82
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A part of me thinks that the Others storyline is not done and that there is more to it than what we just saw.
Winter is Coming is too much of a deal to be quickly dealt with as soon as it leaves the Wall.
We still have 3 episodes left, you never know.
5% of me is still holding out hope, but I doubt it happens.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:09 am to SammyTiger
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What would a retreat to the Iron Isles be? Honestly in the show Dorne was a complete mess. And who wants to spend time with Dany and then at the Iron Isles? The writers have been driving us in the direction that really everything that could possible stop the White Walkers is at Winterfel Winterfel is one of the most significant places in the show. It’s set up as having been build possibly for this purpose. The Iron isles are not important and watching Danny hangout there while the NK basically just takes over all of Westeros and grows his army Exponentially. Where does that story go? Honestly if they don’t kill the NK then they’re screwed. They had 0 chance.
I'm not D&D, much less GRRM, I'm not even going to pretend to write something better. I think GRRM will give us a lot more to this though than that.
I agree Dorne was a mess so they abandoned it, this was a mess as well. They had the opportunity for way more material if they did seasons 7 & 8 as 10 episode seasons and built both of the wars from season 8 into that many episodes. Season 7 could of ended in the retreat from a destroyed Winterfell.
Incredible destruction to the world would of shown Jon was right. Good writers would of found a way to bring it back. They didn't and took an easier way.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 10:10 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:09 am to CBandits82
quote:battle prep vs cercei. battle vs cercei and conclusion.
We still have 3 episodes left, you never know.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:09 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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The knife was in the book Sam read at the Citadel, plain as day
So? Most people thought that was foreshadowing Littlefinger’s death. It’s not clear at all.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:11 am to OMLandshark
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Handing Arya a knife she later kills Littlefinger with is not foreshadowing.
....sigh.......
Yes. It is. Especially when she brings back the point that it is Valyrian steel.
AND coupled with the knowledge that it is the knife that was intended to kill Bran.
AND paired with all of the buildup to her skills and training from the ENTIRE SERIES.
AND the realization of what Melisandre's prophecy for Arya from season 3 was.
AND the knife trick that she used on Brienne, which was what took down the NK.
The foreshadowing is there. Just because you don't like it doesn't make it faulty. I wanted Jon to be the one to kill the NK as well, but sometimes heroes have outside help. It's the way of things.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:11 am to OMLandshark
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Most people thought that was foreshadowing Littlefinger’s death.
Hindsight is 20/20 obviously, but why would LF’s death be foreshadowed in a book that Sam is reading to find a solution to the NK?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:12 am to Dam Guide
Jon was right and he doesn’t need the world to know it.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:13 am to ell_13
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battle prep vs cercei. battle vs cercei and conclusion.
I believe MS is directing the 2nd to last episode, so I think the battle with Cersei will take place/end there.
The last episode will be the aftermath and conclusions, with some unexpected things thrown in.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:14 am to Fun Bunch
I think it’s possible we see Bran turn into the new NK as a closing shot
NK’s Mark is on him, it probably means something more than just GPS
NK’s Mark is on him, it probably means something more than just GPS
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 10:15 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:16 am to MardiGrasRazorback
quote:This wasn't foreshadowing the NK's death because the writers hadn't even thought about who would kill him yet. It was a lucky coincidence and honestly worked out great.
AND the realization of what Melisandre's prophecy for Arya from season 3 was.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:16 am to Fun Bunch
quote:Completely agree.
I believe MS is directing the 2nd to last episode, so I think the battle with Cersei will take place/end there.
The last episode will be the aftermath and conclusions, with some unexpected things thrown in
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:17 am to Fun Bunch
Last episode could be a little bit of a time jump as well.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:19 am to ell_13
They built themselves a lot of wiggle room. Brown, green and blue covers just about everyone/thing in Westeros
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:24 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
They also had 3 different people predicted to be the Prince/Princess who was Promised
Why are we upset they were all wrong instead of 2/3 of them?
Why are we upset they were all wrong instead of 2/3 of them?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:24 am to MardiGrasRazorback
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Yes. It is. Especially when she brings back the point that it is Valyrian steel.
No it’s not. They’ve brought up on multiple occasions that it is Valyrian Steel. Sure it will come in handy in the Battle, but it makes no such connection to ending the war. That dagger is no Lightbringer.
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AND coupled with the knowledge that it is the knife that was intended to kill Bran.
Linked to Littlefinger and Joffrey (the later in the books at least).
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AND paired with all of the buildup to her skills and training from the ENTIRE SERIES.
Irrelevant to this. Not foreshadowing.
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AND the realization of what Melisandre's prophecy for Arya from season 3 was.
OK, so she had 500 prophesies talking about Azor Ahai and Lightbringer, all for that one little prophesy to mean more than them all.
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AND the knife trick that she used on Brienne, which was what took down the NK.
Seems to be fan service at best. If that was foreshadowing, it’s really shitty foreshadowing.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:26 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Hindsight is 20/20 obviously, but why would LF’s death be foreshadowed in a book that Sam is reading to find a solution to the NK?
Who cares. In the books, there’s lots of foreshadowing what Littlefinger is up to, what he’s going to do, and what will happen to him from multiple different characters. I just figured this was more of the same.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:26 am to MardiGrasRazorback
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AND the realization of what Melisandre's prophecy for Arya from season 3 was.
they retconned that.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:26 am to ell_13
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This wasn't foreshadowing the NK's death because the writers hadn't even thought about who would kill him yet. It was a lucky coincidence
exactly
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:27 am to MardiGrasRazorback
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but sometimes heroes have outside help. It's the way of things.
I mean, it's not like they had some wretched, insane, villain that tried everything to kill the heroes be spared based on one conversation much earlier in the story, revert to his villainous ways and end up destroying the all powerful MacGuffin instead of our hero right?
Sorry, that was Lord of the Rings.
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