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re: Game of Thrones S8 E3 "The Long Night." Official Thread
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:00 pm to Eternalmajin
Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:00 pm to Eternalmajin
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Ravens to the remaining houses in Westeros, and maybe Daario/Second Sons so they can show up and be called deus ex machinas as Dany fricks up the fight at KL and gets her shite pushed in.
Something like this will definitely happen.
But I doubt those dudes sitting around over there are going to see some crows, look over at their pals, and be like “hey bro, let’s get the army together and follow that bird to see where it goes”
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Posted on 4/30/19 at 3:04 pm to thewarmth
I had a LOT of problems with the episode but Arya’s launch angle was def not one of them. Cannot believe y’all are still arguing about this.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 5:57 pm to Nguyener
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I wouldn't be surprised if they never reveal anything else about him. The Night King is dead. There's nothing left to tell.
Without the Night King as an antagonist, his character doesn't serve a purpose anymore outside of just existing for the same of memories. He's made it very clear that he has no worldly interest in who sits the throne, etc. I don't think he would even pick a side. He's not a Stark anymore.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 6:06 pm to CarRamrod
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he shined when he talked about eating chicken.
That whole scene in the tavern was TGOAT.
Book may have been slightly better, the way Arya went nuts on the guy.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:33 am to thewarmth
another well-written post from reddit summing up what I've been saying
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Martin has expressed open disdain for fantasy series' that end with a giant battle of good vs evil, where the good guys defeat the clear-cut bad guys and then everything is done and dusted.
Endings like that glorify battle, they fail to highlight the loss and devastation caused by war and sends the message that everything is suddenly just fine once the "final boss" is defeated.
That's why he likes the scour of the shire in LOTR so much, because they just finished this battle that was the point of the whole series and return home only to realize that they still have to keep fighting. Evil didn't die with Sauron. War has consequences. Survivors get traumatized. And you still have to keep fighting these stupid battles that seem trivial compared to what you just experienced.
He has said that that is the tone that he is going to go for with his ending. So i highly doubt that he would end his anti-war story, with the end of the great war.
That's why they finished off the night king mid-season, so they have room to explore the grief and pain that it caused our characters even though they won. And the fact that they have to find the strength to keep on fighting for something as trivial as politics. Because that's life.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:35 am to Carson123987
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That's why they finished off the night king mid-season
Thats fine, but the way they finished him off and the way they treated the Others was absolutely ridiculous.
They literally just made it to Winterfell and were defeated
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:38 am to Carson123987
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That's why they finished off the night king mid-season, so they have room to explore the grief and pain that it caused our characters even though they won. And the fact that they have to find the strength to keep on fighting for something as trivial as politics. Because that's life.
Yeah, it was my only bit of relief with this episode is that it was getting back into this instead of evil ice zombies. Granted I think it’s still too simplified evil with a bat shite crazy queen, mass murdering and raping zombie Mountain, evil Jack Sparrow, and Josef Mengele on one side and all the good guys still on the other. I’m really hoping Dany goes Mad Queen to make this a bit more complicated.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 am to CBandits82
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Thats fine, but the way they finished him off and the way they treated the Others was absolutely ridiculous.
They literally just made it to Winterfell and were defeated
yeah, if I were calling the shots, I would've had a 10 episode season with the first 7 or so centered around the WW conflict. Not big battles every week, but you need the audience to really feel the impact that Winter and the WWs have on the 7K. defeat them and then have your 3 epilogue episodes.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:40 am to Mac
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I had a LOT of problems with the episode but Arya’s launch angle was def not one of them. Cannot believe y’all are still arguing about this.
Yeah, who gives a shite about this? It’s the narrative that is flawed, not this minutiae.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:41 am to Carson123987
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Martin has expressed open disdain for fantasy series' that end with a giant battle of good vs evil, where the good guys defeat the clear-cut bad guys and then everything is done and dusted.
Endings like that glorify battle, they fail to highlight the loss and devastation caused by war and sends the message that everything is suddenly just fine once the "final boss" is defeated.
That's why he likes the scour of the shire in LOTR so much, because they just finished this battle that was the point of the whole series and return home only to realize that they still have to keep fighting. Evil didn't die with Sauron. War has consequences. Survivors get traumatized. And you still have to keep fighting these stupid battles that seem trivial compared to what you just experienced.
He has said that that is the tone that he is going to go for with his ending. So i highly doubt that he would end his anti-war story, with the end of the great war.
That's why they finished off the night king mid-season, so they have room to explore the grief and pain that it caused our characters even though they won. And the fact that they have to find the strength to keep on fighting for something as trivial as politics. Because that's life.
The scourging of the shire is arguably the best part of ROTK. So good. At least I could argue it.
There have been some on here, but most people didnt want the battle/killing of the Night King to be the final episode or final climax. its planned out how most people expected. Maybe an episode early, but it should have been expected if you saw that the battle of Winterfell was going to be the 3rd episode. The fight wasnt going to drag out for four episodes, even if the battle went all the way to Kings Landing, that would have been horrible.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:41 am to OMLandshark
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Yeah, who gives a shite about this? It’s the narrative that is flawed, not this minutiae.
exactly, blows my mind that there are hundreds of posts about it all over the internet. like THAT is what you're going to argue? get real
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:43 am to CBandits82
quote:yea i dont see many people at all bitching about the NK being beat mid season. it was the whole process and the lack of spectacle of the NK after being built up.
That's why they finished off the night king mid-season
Thats fine
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:45 am to CBandits82
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Thats fine, but the way they finished him off and the way they treated the Others was absolutely ridiculous. They literally just made it to Winterfell and were defeated
Agreed, my problems aren't with the Night King being killed before deciding who wins the Iron Throne this time. I understand the game for the thrones isn't going to end with the ending of this show. It will continue as long as humans exist.
The Night King storyline was preached as one of the most important things going on in the realm, no one is even going to remember it because 90% of the kingdom won't even know if it really even happened. Wights are still a figment of the imagination to most people because you killed off most the fighting force that actually saw them. It really had almost no impact to the 7 Kingdoms. Cersei blowing up the Sept was far more devastating to that world.
Winter is coming so we should all be scared, except it's just for a week or so this time and the long night was just a regular Tuesday.
It will just be those silly northerners and their made up war.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:45 am to OMLandshark
quote:it devolved to that when one side wouldnt admit the narrative was flawed so more evidence was brought forward to bring to light other stupid things.
I had a LOT of problems with the episode but Arya’s launch angle was def not one of them. Cannot believe y’all are still arguing about this.
Yeah, who gives a shite about this? It’s the narrative that is flawed, not this minutiae.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:47 am to iwyLSUiwy
Yeah watching our hero’s die at KLs gates and then the NK murder Cersei who has no valyrian steel no dragon glass andnonly really has a lot of peasants for the NK to kill and bring back.
That wouldn’t have been great television
That wouldn’t have been great television
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:48 am to CarRamrod
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it devolved to that when one side wouldnt admit the narrative was flawed so more evidence was brought forward to bring to light other stupid things.
People were bitching about Arya and her 65” vertical almost instantly
The “maesters” who can suspend belief for dragons, White walkers, giants, magic, prophecy, etc, couldn’t wrap their heads around a silent assassin doing silent assassin shite
And it was all caused by their homo-erotic fantasies about Jon (NTTAWWT)
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:49 am to Carson123987
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yeah, if I were calling the shots, I would've had a 10 episode season with the first 7 or so centered around the WW conflict. Not big battles every week, but you need the audience to really feel the impact that Winter and the WWs have on the 7K. defeat them and then have your 3 epilogue episodes.
Exactly.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:51 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
oh shut up you are on record saying they could have done anything and you would be ok with it.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:52 am to CarRamrod
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oh shut up you are on record saying they could have done anything and you would be ok with it.
My point was I wouldn’t be on here whinging constantly no matter how they ended it
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:52 am to Dam Guide
whg Does it bother you so much that the people who spent 7.5 seasons worrying about the stopping night king stoppedthe night king?
Like did you want the night king to win and the starks in the last breath say “told you so?”
Why does the south have to believe in the NK?
If Dany wins the rulers of Westeros are probably all at the BOW
Like did you want the night king to win and the starks in the last breath say “told you so?”
Why does the south have to believe in the NK?
If Dany wins the rulers of Westeros are probably all at the BOW
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