re: Game of Thrones S8 E1 "Winterfell" Official Thread

Not sure if it was discussed yet but the whore scene with Bronn. Part of me feels him saying something about being the only person to shoot down a dragon is foreshadowing.

Yes this was interesting. He’s crazy he doesn’t want the dead to kill him

Varys to Tyrion: “You have to find a way to reach her and make her listen”.

The point will be that Jon can succeed where Tyrion fails and she does the same for him. Together (with the Starks and everyone not named Cersei helping) they can be the leaders to save the land from the war and the Night King.

A song of Ice (Jon) and Fire (Dany).

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Upon second watch..

When Qyburn tells Cersei the horrible news of the dead breaking through the wall, he seems to not like her reaction.

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Yeah, I noticed that on the first watch, and mentioned it about 40 pages back somewhere

I found it very interesting that he
A) said it was terrible news that the wall had been breached, and he seemed serious.
B) really didn't seem to be in the loop, that when Cersei said "good" he looked surprised. He also doesn't seem to care for Euron that much, although Qyburn's tough to read.

Qyburn helped Cersei kill off quite a few advisors that had fallen out of favor. If he's beginning to sense that he's no longer fully trusted or needed, he might begin planning an exit strategy.

I kind of find it funny that he's making this big "I've done very well for Cersei" speech to Bronn, it was almost like he was telling himself that. Also find it interesting that he meets with Bronn at the same time Cersei's fricking Euron, and is sending him away to find Jaime.

So how does Varys not know the Golden Company is on their way? What's his purpose? Or is this going to be what gets him killed?

Also did anybody ever think that bringing this massive army north to fight the dead is going to backfire? If everyone that dies gets added to their army wouldnt it be better to try to just find a way to assassinate the NK like Beric suggested?

Yeah, I just dont see Bronn betraying Jamie and Tyrion to attempt rule at an undead world. They've been good to him through the series and I think even though he prides himself on being a sell sword, a wagon of gold and kingdom mean nothing compared.

Qyburn has never come off as someone with poor intelligence.

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I didnt think he said hes the only one that's ever killed a dragon. Just shot one down. Which is the truth. Well, other than the night king.

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I have a feeling that dragon will remember Bronn too. May come face to face and make for an interesting dynamic if Bronn comes to warn or etc.

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think the show is kind of past that. Even if the WWs and their army is defeated half way through and there is a fight for the throne, it’ll probably be just a fight. All that chess match stuff doesn’t seem to be what the writers are focusing on anymore.

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It was who played the game the best to still be standing to face the ultimate threat. The Iron Throne is still the prize for people like Dany and Cersei but you got to deal with the WW threat first. Dany is playing it one way Cersei another. Cersei is banking on Jon and Dany winning but being so decimated she can take them out. She’s evil of a different kind from the Night King. Dany would like the throne without going all scorched earth like her father. There are still chess moves to be made but their are only 4 pieces left on the board.

Dany’s going to turn into the Mad Queen when she finds out Jon is the true heir. No way in absolute hell, after what she’s gone through, does she cede the trone to him.

A) They never tell everyone but her and Jon says “yea bitch I’m actually the heir but I’ll let you keep it cause IDGAF”

B) They have to kill her arse because she won’t give up her claim and goes bat shite crazy turning the dragons on everyone else