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re: Game of Thrones S8 E1 "Winterfell" Official Thread

Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:52 am to
Posted by VoxDawg
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:52 am to
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1) Is the crossbow Joffrey's?


I assumed it was the crossbow that Tyrion killed Tywin with on the shitter. Could still be Joffrey's that he got for his birthday, where he shot up the whore in his chambers and left her on display.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:53 am to
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I saw a lot of people complaining about the dragons being 'protective' when Dany and Jon were making out at the waterfall. I don't think this is the case. I think the dragons know that Jon is a Targ - i.e. why they let Jon ride them in the first place, and are essentially telling Jon "Yo this is your Aunt that you are boning" - I think they are much smarter than we give them credit for


There's some kinky shite going down in Westeros, and always has been.

Dragons and Targs are cool with the incest.

But, if you think about some things "literally," Dany is the Mother of Dragons...she made her kids watch as she got dicked down by someone who will later be revealed as her uncle. Chick is nuts!
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:54 am to
Yes, Bronn took a payment for not defending Tyrion but the real reason was the opponent was the Mountain. He knew he couldn't beat him and wasn't about to go on a suicide mission.

He did ask Tyrion when he ever stuck his neck out for him? Tyrion had no reply.
Posted by cgrand
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:56 am to
it is the "lannister" crossbow.

joffrey had it made, and showed it off to margaery.
joffrey used it to kill ros.
tyrion used it to kill tywin after he found it in tywin's room
Posted by Saskwatch
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:57 am to
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why would he think anyone would see it if indeed it is a message as beric says?


NK assumed that people would come seeking out the Umbers after no showing. He was correct and the WW left their mark. Its mental warfare. They are telling everyone that they are coming and there's nothing that will stop them.

"Ever the artists"


This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 10:02 am
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:58 am to
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Could still be Joffrey's that he got for his birthday, where he shot up the whore in his chambers


Ros, not the whore. Those perfect tits deserve to be remembered by name.
Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 9:59 am to
Also dany is like 40 which is really gross. Jon is wat younger
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:03 am to
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At the close of season 7, we were treated with scenes of winter coming to the capital, snow covering the map on the floor of the Red Keep.



Gucci mane had a show in fleabottom but has since moved on
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:05 am to
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Also dany is like 40 which is really gross. Jon is wat younger



With this and your post in the one in the feminist thread, I think you're a little confused on the ages
Posted by YumYum Sauce
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:06 am to
The problem with GoT is how big and mainstream it has become.

There are people that go their rocks off for the first few seasons being in the know, book readers.

now these people are having to discuss this show with everyone from their parents to idiot teenagers. (I am one of these people)


The other problem is the almost 2 year wait in between seasons. People's expectations are astronomically high. The reunions in episode 1 have played out in our heads a certain way, and its natural to be disappointed when we see them on screen play out differently.


- Drogon was absolutely looking at Jon because of the targaryan blood, not because hes cockblocking
- Bran DGAF that Jaime pushed him out the window
- Cersei is truly alone in king's landing. There is no fricking telling what she actually has planned with Bronn. She is becoming the Mad King 2.0.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:06 am to
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With this and your post in the one in the feminist thread, I think you're a little confused on the ages


It's el Gaucho. He's a troll poster.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:07 am to
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Also dany is like 40 which is really gross. Jon is wat younger

I'm pretty sure Dany was born around the same time as Jon
Posted by Carson123987
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:07 am to
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She is becoming the Mad King 2.0.


yes, and it will end the same way as MK1.0
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:07 am to
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she made her kids watch as she got dicked down by someone who will later be revealed as her uncle



She’s his aunt


But it has to be your bull
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:07 am to
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Them getting married before they all might die is definitely something people would do in that situation. Honestly, them being related is about as big a red flag as you can get to indicate that things aren't going to end well.




People get hung up on this but the Targs intermarried all the time.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:09 am to
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She’s his aunt


But it has to be your bull


Ah...right...I fricked that one up. Ha.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:09 am to
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And I didn’t hate this episode, but it threw out a top 3 stupid part in the show. Send Bronn to kill his two best friends.


The fact that you keep repeating this tells me that you have zero understanding of how the minds of the characters at play work.

Cersei isn’t just trying to kill her brothers. She’s trying to send a message too. Her message is that “I’m so powerful that I can even get your friends to kill you.”

She didn’t pick Bronn cuz she thought he was the best assasin, she picked him cuz she knew that it would hurt her brothers more to die at the hands of someone they believe is there friend rather than a stranger.

IT’S A POWER PLAY.

We get that it won’t work. That’s not the point. The point is to show that 1) Cersei is done with her brothers and wants to send them a message as they die and 2) that Cersei isn’t as powerful as she thinks she is.
This post was edited on 4/15/19 at 10:10 am
Posted by STLhog
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Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:11 am to
No Hound and Brienne reunion was also a let down.

Really hope the writing doesn't continue this way. Super campy and hokey when things are getting real.

2 minutes of dialogue regarding Cersei and her fake plans but like 15 on Jon and Deanarys staying someplace 1000 years? Did they literally just re-do the scene with his wildling? Cmon.
Posted by Not Cooper
Member since Jun 2015
5037 posts
Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:13 am to
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People get hung up on this but the Targs intermarried all the time.

You're right. I just feel like the dragons know that Jon is a Targ. Maybe this isn't the case and they actually are just pissed about someone diddling their mom, but I don't want to paint them as that simple. I guess we'll never really know what the dragons are thinking though, lol.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Posted on 4/15/19 at 10:14 am to
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Also, and this is my bigger gripe, riding a dragon is one of the most fundamental, seminal moments of any fantasy story. It's not some "hey I got an extra scooter, hop on and let's head up to the Sex Waterfall" sort of thing. They totally whiffed at that. We've been waiting to see Jon ride a dragon for years, and it was a huge letdown IMO.









I can respect that.

That goes along with my first post that happened in the episode was perfectly fine, but each scene needed more time to better flush them out.


Honestly a 70 minute (true 70 minutes of new material not including previously on, opening and closing credits, and previews).

Just give the characters a bit more time to create a full scene.
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