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re: Game of Thrones S4:E9: "The Watchers on the Wall", HODORS ONLY (no readers)
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:13 am to Iona Fan Man
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:13 am to Iona Fan Man
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battle scenes are to show bravery and sacrifice and EPIC speeches to rally troops
So you enjoyed last nights episode.
I will say it again, the wall is the story. Like it or not, it was a big part of the story, and will be moving forward. Sorry you didn't see any tits.
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Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:14 am to Iona Fan Man
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Kashonly
youre trying too hard
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:17 am to OceanMan
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I will say it again, the wall is the story.
I just disagree with this. While the wall is important, and may become more important the closer we get to the WWs invading, the creators of GoT have done a fantastic job of making "the story" about a vast number of different things, most of which are important (even if mainly for the time being). Just because the wall will eventually be more important doesn't mean it trumps all other stories they've been building on for four seasons.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:18 am to CrippleCreek
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But KL is better TV. That the wall is incredibly important doesn't make it interesting
Spoilers, it was based on a book series.
I disagree with you by the way. What I find interesting in the show is what lies beyond the wall and what makes westeros different from our world, not what is similar. Sure the dialogue is great and the story is filled with cool hidden messages. But the show is fantasy, not west wing.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:19 am to Iona Fan Man
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these dumb undisciplined nomads with cannibals and Giants, who have never been a real threat....still aren't.
Holy Hodor. They're 100,000 people united for the first time ever against 100 (more like 50 now) and nothing standing between them but a gate. The Watch killed what, maybe 200 wildlings last night? Mance could EASILY send 200 more men over the wall the way Jon and Ygritte's group went and just attack them from the south again with more people to finish them off. Or they could just bull rush the gate with battering rams. Or they could build something to shield them from the arrows (like the boat Stannis' men used) and carry a ram under that. I have no idea how you can honestly think the giant fricking army one mile from them is not a threat.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:20 am to CocomoLSU
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I just disagree with this. While the wall is important, and may become more important the closer we get to the WWs invading, the creators of GoT have done a fantastic job of making "the story" about a vast number of different things, most of which are important (even if mainly for the time being). Just because the wall will eventually be more important doesn't mean it trumps all other stories they've been building on for four seasons.
I don't think you'd be making this point if last weeks episode was 50 minutes of the Moutain vs the Viper fighting.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:20 am to Ryne Sandberg
I'm not hating on the episode. I'm disagreeing with the notion that it's the "best episode in the series" whenever the battle of Blackwater had A. Thousands of deaths. B. Surprise ending. C. New players joining the fray. D. A clear winner. The battle for Blackwater bay was a proper battle. Not a test. I don't need it explained to me that they left out awesome fight sequences for budget reasons whenever they give me damned near 19 minutes of Fat Sam running around becoming a man or kissing his girl or holding his dying buddy, or telling a kid to pick up a weapon.
I'm gonna post this again. This damned poster gave me unrealistic expectations for this episode
I'm gonna post this again. This damned poster gave me unrealistic expectations for this episode
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:21 am to jiffyjohnson
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I'm disagreeing with the notion that it's the "best episode in the series"
Has anyone actually said this though?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:22 am to OceanMan
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Spoilers, it was based on a book series.
Right, but now I'm watching a television show, and as a willing non-reader I'm enjoying it as a television show and not an adaptation or book series.
I don't really care what what "works" in the books because I tried them and didn't enjoy them.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:22 am to The_Joker
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Mance could EASILY send 200 more men over the wall the way Jon and Ygritte's group went
when no one was expecting them, it takes a day to climb the wall, someone will see them and attack
all they have to do it blow the tunnel....they won't be able to get over the wall without being picked off.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:22 am to wildtigercat93
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I don't think you'd be making this point if last weeks episode was 50 minutes of the Moutain vs the Viper fighting.
If last week was solely MvV, I'd absolutely be saying the same thing.
Keep in mind that I enjoyed last night's episode and thought it was pretty good. Just thought it was the weakest of the series.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:23 am to CrippleCreek
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This ominous "bigger fight" isn't populated by the same rich and intriguing characters that KL and now the Eyrie are.
:kige:
I look at GoT as a political drama taking place in some medieval fantasy world. Last night was akin to an action movie.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:24 am to jiffyjohnson
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This damned poster gave me unrealistic expectations for this episode
shite, yeah..that's the first I've seen of that poster, and the episode definitely doesn't live up to that poster. Not even close actually.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:26 am to RTR America
Ya it's been suggested by more than one poster.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:27 am to jiffyjohnson
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Ya it's been suggested by more than one poster.
I feel like i have seen the complete opposite more often
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:29 am to RTR America
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I feel like i have seen the complete opposite more often
what? you weren't epically epicified by that epictastic episode?
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:29 am to RTR America
I feel like you aren't really in touch with my feelings. And also that you haven't read the whole thread.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:30 am to CocomoLSU
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Just because the wall will eventually be more important doesn't mean it trumps all other stories they've been building on for four seasons.
It was just one episode, and I believe they borrowed time from this one to put into next one.
What I am saying is that I trust the writers devoted time to this for a reason. By doing so, I think jon will rise as a crucial character. I mean this show has gone 4 seasons and most of what has happened are people dying plotting for the throne. There are killer ghost people coming with a hellstorm of a winter. This has always been the plan. The story in kings landing cannot go on forever due to external factors.
As I am writing this, I realize how genious it is to write all of the politics into the story, as it distracts the viewers as much as the characters.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:30 am to OceanMan
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The tagline for the entire show is 'Winter is Coming.' Prepare for disappointment.
if the majority of the show was like last night then i would have stopped watching long ago- or probably never gotten past the 1st episode actually.
i just hope next week is amazing, i expected a lot last night being it was the penultimate epi which is usually fantastic. hopefully, they are just teasing us for an epic finale.
Posted on 6/9/14 at 11:30 am to jiffyjohnson
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And also that you haven't read the whole thread.
I actually did once I finished the episode last night.
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