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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by HideChaKidz
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:15 pm to
What was the story of the drunk guy again? His family had honor and then lost it how?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:19 pm to
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Cersei doesn't seem powerful enough to hate.


Cersei doesn't need power for me to hate her. She's next on my "George Martin can kill anyone else as long as it's not Tyrion" hitlist. She needs to suffer.
Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:20 pm to
He was the knight that showed up for a match drunk in S2. Joffrey got pissed and was going to pretty much drown him in wine before Sansa asked him to stop.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:26 pm to
Also, the name of the episode is "The Lion and the Rose". The lions watched their king drowning in his own bodily fluids. The roses watched as the king they just married died. The more I think, the more I think the Tyrells were involved.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:31 pm
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:26 pm to
we just witnessed jack glesson's last performance as an actor.. we will miss u
Posted by AgTown05
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:27 pm to
Hello everyone, just dropping by to spread some knowledge that might take away some confusion. If I'm not wanted here after what I say I'll leave.

Law of succession-in Westeros the next male in line always takes the crown. Even if the marriage was consummated before he died Tommen would still become King and Margaery would once again be Lady Margaery. The notable exception to this rule is Dorne, who lets females born before males rule.

Dontos- Ser Dontos was to ride for Joffrey in a tournament celebrating his 13th "nameday." When Dontos showed up so drunk he couldn't sit on his horse, Joffrey takes this as an insult and orders him put to death by being drowned in wine. Sansa's pleading saved his life and Joffrey made him his fool.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:29 pm
Posted by navy
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:28 pm to
Yep... Ole Joffrey.... The "Malfoy" of GOT.

Lol
Posted by 40 Rouge
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:29 pm to
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He was the knight that showed up for a match drunk in S2. Joffrey got pissed and was going to pretty much drown him in wine before Sansa asked him to stop. 


Fitting. Joffrey was going to kill him with wine, so why not return the favor.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:29 pm to
Going to leave this right here:


Oberyn Martell


He hates the Lannisters. What a perfect set up. Kill the king Lannister, have another Lannister blamed for it.

Win win.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:30 pm to
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Fitting. Joffrey was going to kill him with wine, so why not return the favor.

Ha. Nice observation!
Posted by DoUrden
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:30 pm to
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Cersei doesn't need power for me to hate her. She's next on my "George Martin can kill anyone else as long as it's not Tyrion" hitlist. She needs to suffer


/concur with this. Next to Joffery she and Ramsay are my most hated characters.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:31 pm to
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Hello everyone, just dropping by to spread some knowledge that might take away some confusion. If I'm not wanted here after what I say I'll leave.


HODORS ONLY
Posted by craigbiggio
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:32 pm to
Hmm anyone think Breanne slipped Margaery something when they held hands?
Posted by HideChaKidz
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:33 pm to
Ah OK thnx
Posted by ClydeFrog
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:33 pm to
George RR wedding planner
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:34 pm to
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Hmm anyone think Breanne slipped Margaery something when they held hands?

Definitely don't think Margaery did it either. She really wants to be queen, which she can't be if the king is dead.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:34 pm to
Just finished.

The wife and I spent 3 minutes trying to get our jaws off of the floor.

You truly have no idea what is coming in this show and I love it.

Joffrey killed in ep 2 out of the blue?

Still in shock.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:34 pm to
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HODORS ONLY


Worth saying, but I don't think that's a book spoiler. Again, the succession goes through the bloodline. Margery to my knowledge has no blood in Joffrey's line and if she does, it's not closer than Tommen has. Of course, this is all a moot point because none of the Lannisters has blood in the line of succession. Remember, that little nugget of information is precisely what drives Stannis' claim to the throne. He knows that Robert had no trueborn children, just the bastards, meaning that Joffrey has no Baratheon blood. By blood, Stannis knows that he is next in line after Robert died, then Renly. With Renly gone, he knows the only people left in the Baratheon bloodline are him and his daughter as long as he manages to keep breathing.

Obviously, this won't stop people from playing the game of thrones and trying to wrest control, bloodlines be damned, and that's what makes this show so much fun.
This post was edited on 4/13/14 at 11:56 pm
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:37 pm to
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Worth saying, but I don't think that's a book spoiler.

Yep. I don't have the books, but I've read a lot of stuff on the (spoiler-free) wiki that gives background info and history.
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:39 pm to
so is this a surprise for the book people or no?
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