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re: Game of Thrones S4:E2:"The Lion and the Rose", HODORS ONLY (no book readers)

Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:00 pm to
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Was coming here to post this. Sansa's hand definitely goes over the top of the cup before she handed it to Tyrion.

I think they had something to do with it. They were antsy to get out before Joffrey started choking.

Then again...would they have had to rely on Joffrey dropping the cup to where Sansa could get to it?
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:00 pm to
Honestly I think it might have been Sansa. She was zoned out when they were making a mockery of Ned and it does appear that she may have slipped something in that cup. Don't know how she could have planned it though.

Then again I think the cake might have done it. As soon as he takes a bite he makes a strange face before calling for Tyrion to refill his cup.
Posted by iluvdatiger
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:01 pm to
I don't think Sansa dropped anything in it. It was empty. So tyrion pours the wine from a decanter in front of cersei. Then when the pie comes joff puts it down. Then margary sets it over on grandmas table and tyrion goes to get it, hands it to joff and he begins choking. So either grandma or margary put something in the wine OR someone poisoned the pie. The fool,oberyn or grandma are good pie candidates.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:01 pm to
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Then again...would they have had to rely on Joffrey dropping the cup to where Sansa could get to it?


This is why Tyrion/Sansa doesn't make sense IMO
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:02 pm to
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Who is Tommen's actual blood related parents?

Robert and Cersei?

Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen are all Jaime's kids.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:02 pm to
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poison is a woman's tool


I thought it was interesting how Margary kept moving the feast along anytime it went off track. When Joffrey threw the money at the minstrels she was like "Let's make the announcement," then when he was telling Tyrion to kneel she says "It's the pie!"

Almost like she was following a script for how everything was supposed to go.
Posted by Jet12
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:03 pm to
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Almost like she was following a script for how everything was supposed to go.

I think she just wanted to diffuse the situation so everything could move along and she could get to consummatin'.

Sadly for her, she's still a virgin. :(
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:04 pm to
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Almost like she was following a script for how everything was supposed to go.


or simply trying to head Joffrey off when he was starting to act like a spoiled bitch. Trying to keep his douche arse in check
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:05 pm to
Just some stuff:







Posted by THRILLHO
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:06 pm to
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This is why Tyrion/Sansa doesn't make sense IMO



Unless Sansa was going to wait for an opportune moment (and put if off if it didn't arise) and that one luckily presented itself. I don't think that she did, though.

Lending some credence to Oberyn, besides the obvious revenge, is that he wouldn't care if someone else has some pie before Joffrey eats it since he hates all of the Lannisters.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:06 pm to
That last one...terrible, yet
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:06 pm to
I found the quote I was referencing. It was from season 1, when Ned and Maester Pycelle were discussing the death of Jon Arryn. Maester Pycelle comments that poison is the weapon of choice for women, cravens, and eunuchs.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:07 pm to
Earlier I thought it was the pie, but that was a really big pie. It would have to be completely loaded with poison to kill him in one bite. I'm thinking someone slipped something in the goblet now.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:08 pm to
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eunuchs


That + Varys looking shady before the wedding = hmmmmm.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:08 pm to
I don't care what happens for the rest of the series...that little douche going out like that makes everything else gravy.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:09 pm to
The drunk Jester sure was Johnny on the spot to ask Sansa to leave when Joffrey choked. I think he was behind it.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:11 pm to
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Just watched again. Did it look like Sansa dropped something in the goblet before handing it to Tyrion?


Nah. The fool definitely knew something was up because he doubled back in the confusion as Joffrey was leaking from every orifice to tell Sansa she had to leave right away to live. If she was in on it, he wouldn't have had to go and rescue her. Whoever killed Joffrey had to have some allegiance to the Starks or at least have compassion for Sansa to go and get her away from King's Landing and ensure she didn't get whacked in the shitstorm that's sure to ensue.
Posted by Burt Reynolds
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:12 pm to
FRICK YOU JOFFREY!!!

Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:13 pm to
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I don't care what happens for the rest of the series...that little douche going out like that makes everything else gravy.


Kinda how I feel. I don't really have a strong hatred for anyone else. Cersei doesn't seem powerful enough to hate. I kinda like Tywinn and don't mind the other Lannisters. I'm guessing something will happen soon that will make me hate someone though.
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Posted on 4/13/14 at 11:15 pm to
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FRICK YOU JOFFREY!!!





You're goddamned right. Never been so happy to see a TV character die. The only thing better than seeing that little bitch fie was watching that whore of a mother be distraught over it. Makes me smile to see her upset.
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