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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever

Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:35 pm to
Posted by Nguyener
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:35 pm to
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"if you hated The Last Jedi, you'll like Fall of Skywalker"


frick this shill nonsense. I'd encourage anyone to read the confirmed leaks and plot outline and tell me if the movie seems at all watchable much less even close to likeable.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:53 pm to
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Talks about the multiple reviewers all saying the same thing - basically "if you hated The Last Jedi, you'll like Fall of Skywalker" or "this movie sucks because it undoes all of Rian's fine work."


I think they are trying to use reverse psychology to sell tickets to this dumpster fire of a movie.
This post was edited on 12/18/19 at 9:54 pm
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 9:59 pm to
That's precisely what he is saying.

That many reviewers can't possibly have independently wrote the exact same thing.

So basically, "go see this one because it sticks it to the last one."

And it's working. Multiple posters in every thread are all saying the same thing, "well, if people who liked TLJ hate this, it must be good."
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:29 pm to
It’s also weird that this many reviewers miss the biggest complaint about TLJ. That Rian Johnson shite all over the Luke Skywalker character. That problem can’t really be fixed at this point.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 12/18/19 at 10:59 pm to
The way you really know is that they all claim that ROS is fan service, but I know of ZERO fans who wanted to see Palpatine again. No, it's JJ service.

And not one of them mentions the #1 fan complaint - that Rian shite all over Luke Skywalker.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 6:22 am to
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They got a bunch of shills to say the same thing, that the new one sucks - because it sticks it to Big Bad Rian Johnson.

So you're supposed to react like that.
So you think Disney paid them to give bad reviews?
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65082 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 7:11 am to
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So you think Disney paid them to give bad reviews?


No. I think it's apparent, however, that journalists engage in group think now more than ever. You only have to watch mainstream media networks to see the same talking points parroted by different people on multiple networks.
Posted by boxcarbarney
Above all things, be a man
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 9:10 am to
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Somebody get this guy an account and get him in here!


Displaced Buckeye, or whatever his name is, is chubbing up over this.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 10:55 am to
Burn baby burn
Posted by Bulldogblitz
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:16 am to
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two extraneous new characters seemingly meant to “no homo” Finn and Poe


...in a galaxy far, far away, they've figured out how to correct that birth defect before the child is born.
Posted by Addison Tiger
Antwerp, Belgium
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:49 am to
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The way you really know is that they all claim that ROS is fan service, but I know of ZERO fans who wanted to see Palpatine again.


With Rian killing Snoke, JJ probably didn’t have many other options than Palpatine.

I don’t really blame JJ for this movie, but he probably never should have accepted the job. There was absolutely no way anyone could make a coherent ending after what Rian did. Based on how Hollywood operates, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a career killer for JJ if it doesn’t meet Disney’s revenue expectations.
Posted by Bonkers119
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Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:51 am to
JJ will be fine. He'll go back to making his Cloverfield or Super 8 type movies. He's still a big director and will have plenty of opportunities moving forward after Star Wars.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 11:59 am to
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JJ will be fine. He'll go back to making his Cloverfield or Super 8 type movies. He's still a big director and will have plenty of opportunities moving forward after Star Wars.


He signed a huge deal with Warner. He's got his pick of franchises to play with there.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 12:16 pm to
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With Rian killing Snoke, JJ probably didn’t have many other options than Palpatine.


B.S. He would have been better off making up an entirely new character than bringing back Palpatine. He had other options for sure


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I don’t really blame JJ for this movie, but he probably never should have accepted the job. There was absolutely no way anyone could make a coherent ending after what Rian did. Based on how Hollywood operates, I wouldn’t be surprised if this is a career killer for JJ if it doesn’t meet Disney’s revenue expectations.



Its obvious that JJ made TFA without future movies in mind. He merely copied ANH and most everyone knew this but tolerated it because we assumed there was a plan.

Now we know there was no plan and JJ was lazy and didnt want to put any effort into making something new.
Posted by Zach Lee To Amp Hill
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 12/19/19 at 12:25 pm to
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JJ was lazy and didnt want to put any effort into making something new


i don't think this is true at all.

i think he planned on making the first movie of a trilogy and that those that came after him would have the same ideas about SW that he does. meaning mostly that it's not to be taken particularly seriously and it's mostly harmless fun that can be inspiring and moving.

Johnson wanted to make War & Peace but Star Wars and Disney panicked and asked JJ to pick up the pieces and he couldn't. However, there's no excusing him working with Terrio to write the script. Terrio is a major league hack.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56331 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 12:26 pm to
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With Rian killing Snoke, JJ probably didn’t have many other options than Palpatine.

Sure he did, but he doesn't have the ability to think of anything original. And he and they don't understand anything they can't quantify. Inspiration is an alien concept to them. They don't know what it is, and they seem to think it doesn't really exist. Everything is a formula to them.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
6450 posts
Posted on 12/19/19 at 3:35 pm to
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That problem can’t really be fixed at this point.


At this point, no it can't. But JJ could have very easily have retconned Luke's death, and rebuilt the finish from there. Straight from the hip...

Luke didn't die at the end of TLJ, he just merged his physical presence with his force projection and poof he shows up in the cockpit of the falcon with the 6 remaining members of the resistance.

He then says something like "Chewie, set a course for New Alderan. We are going to need the New Republic Fleet."

The New Republic Fleet is commanded by Admiral Antilles who had kind of turned his back on Leia when it became public that Darth Vader was her father. You can retcon and make Raymus Antilles, who was the Captain of the Tantive Iv, and was murdered by Vader in A New Hope Wedge's father. Wedge agrees, they must go after the first order, but can't do it without direction form the Senate.

Leia and Chewie head to Bespin to convince Senator Calrissian to get the Seante to declare war.

While that is going on Kylo and his Knights of Ren are searching out a dark presence he felt in the Force. He fears Snoke has somehow returned. Instead he discovers Palpatine is still alive. Palpatine explains that he learned the power to cheat death, but never shared it with Vader. He transferred his life force into various hosts including Snoke, but has returned to his own body which his spirit influenced the midi-chlorians to create.

Kylo apprentices himself to Palpatine to become Darth Something. He gives Palpatine Snoke's ring which some how reinvigorates Palpatine.

Rey continues her training with Luke and Leia but the re-emergnce of Palpatine sends tremors through the Force which kill Leia. Luke is able to survive but is gravely weakened and sends Rey to face Palpatine, but stresses the lesson he learned on the Death Star, that only through compassion can the Sith be defeated.

Leia and Anakin start to reach out to Ben through the Force. Anakin urges Ben to return to the light before he suffers a fate similar to his own. Ben Mirrors Vader's language about it being too late for him.

Poe and Chewie and Wedge head off to destroy Palpatines fleet before it can get fully mobilized.

Rey shows up and is fighting the Knights of Ren, but is overpowered and captured by Kylo. Luke feels her pain, and goes to rescue her. Even in his weakened state he kills the Knights of Ren with ease.

He confronts the Emperor and Kylo as they try to turn Rey. Luke asks Kylo to return to the light using the same language Leia and Anakin had. Palpatine shoots lighting at Luke throwing him to the floor.

Kylo engages Rey and taunts her about how the power of the dark side will always prevail, and how weak Luke is. All through their duel Anakin is pleading with Kylo to stop what he's doing. As he overtakes Rey and Palpatine goads him to kill her the conflict boils over. Kylo throws his lightsaber down and attempts to attack Palpatine. Palpatine turns his lightning on Kylo stating that since he can't handle the power of the Dark Side maybe Rey can. Rey yells never and jumps in front of the lightning absorbing it with Anakins saber. Luke tosses his saber to Kylo who also begins to absorb the blasts.

Then Anakin emerges from the force and possesses Palpatine taking control of his spirit and dragging it into the netherworld of the force where dark side spirits can't exist. Palpatines body explodes.

New Republic fleet finishes off Palps fleet.

Celebration on New Alderon.

Show an epilogue with Luke teaching a clan of younglings with Rey and Ben instructing their own older padawans. Anakin, Obi-Wan, Leia, and Yoda all look on.

This post was edited on 12/19/19 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36041 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 10:37 pm to
It’s not the worst. There are only seven better.
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 12/20/19 at 11:15 pm to
Yeah you lost me at the end of your fan fic there. And no Babu Frik? What’s wrong with you?
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