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Bench McElroy
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Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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J.J. Abrams and Chris Terrio’s Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker is a genuinely bad movie, one that repeats the fatal mistakes of the likes of Spectre, Spider-Man 3 and The Crimes of Grindelwald to end the Skywalker Saga on an all-time low.

The problem with Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker isn’t just that it absolutely walks back a number of potent reveals and plot threads from the last movie, but rather that the 142-minute movie spends almost its entire running time retconning its predecessor and adding painfully conventional “plot twists” and patronizing reversals in the name of mollifying the fans who merely want to be reminded of the first three movies. It inflicts additional damage to the legacy of the first six Star Wars movies. It undermines the previous two “episodes” in the name of giving (some but not all) original-trilogy Star Wars fans a reassuring pat on the head. It even shies away from The Force Awakens’ darker real-world implications. It is so concerned with character reveals and “chase the MacGuffin” plotting that it finds no time for any real character work.

The film continually teases status-quo altering events and then immediately walks them back, offers generic action where even the seemingly emotional showdowns are interrupted by digressions and past-tense exposition, and gives Daisy Ridley essentially no real arc of her own. The screenplay never forces her to make any hard choices or live with the consequences of her mistakes. The plot is shockingly similar to Frozen II, but even that film, as random as its narrative seemed, prioritized character and emotional honesty over plot, which is why it resonated despite the story issues. Finn, Poe and Rey are mostly action figures moved into place as the plot demands.

The Rise of Skywalker is possibly worse than any prior Star Wars “episode.” It ends a legendary franchise with a thud while denying this new trilogy its artistic reason for existence. It represents the cultural theft of Star Wars from today’s kids by today’s arrested-development-stricken adults. Star Wars was a franchise first and foremost for children, and the kids who grew up with Harry Potter, The Hunger Games and the MCU have embraced harsh truths and challenging narratives. Lucasfilm and Disney’s The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics, right down to its near erasure of Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico. It’s bad enough that adults no longer see grown-up movies in theaters, but now yesterday’s geeks who have taken over pop culture feel entitled to have the kid-friendly franchises aimed at them as well.


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Henry Jones Jr
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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a genuinely bad movie, one that repeats the fatal mistakes of the likes of Spectre
The frick?


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Walking the Earth
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
Now that is a meltdown.

Somebody get this guy an account and get him in here!


Henry Jones Jr
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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it absolutely walks back a number of potent reveals and plot threads from the last movie, but rather that the 142-minute movie spends almost its entire running time retconning its predecessor
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Lucasfilm and Disney’s The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics
I'm erect after reading this. This has me so hyped up now
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RollTide1987
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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and gives Daisy Ridley essentially no real arc of her own. The screenplay never forces her to make any hard choices or live with the consequences of her mistakes.


So business as usual?

She has been going through this whole trilogy with a God-mode cheat on since her first scene in The Force Awakens.


meeple
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
Much of what he said could easily be said about TLJ.


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Bonkers119
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
Has she though? You do realize that she got captured in the Force Awakens, and then she barely escaped Kylo after their fight. She hasn't really done anything meaningful at all the first two movies.


RollTide1987
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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You do realize that she got captured in the Force Awakens


And would have escaped on her own, with or without the help offered by Han and Finn.

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she barely escaped Kylo after their fight


Don't you mean Kylo barely escaped her? She might have killed him if the planet hadn't started exploding at exactly the right time.


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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics, right down to its near erasure of Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico.


Don’t bring us into this shite movie. We hated the last one because it was a garbage story, this one appears to be much worse.

Also I kind of look at the prequels more kindly now.
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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spends almost its entire running time retconning its predecessor


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Breadstick Gun
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
So dumb. It’s light years better than TLJ.


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WildManGoose
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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I'm erect after reading this. This has me so hyped up now

It sounds and looks bad from the spoilers, but it seems that everyone that loved TLJ hates this movie. That makes me want to support it more. And IMO, any review that says it walks back or retcons any of RJs decisions is positive press.


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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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two extraneous new characters seemingly meant to “no homo” Finn and Poe


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UGATiger26
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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And would have escaped on her own, with or without the help offered by Han and Finn.


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Don't you mean Kylo barely escaped her? She might have killed him if the planet hadn't started exploding at exactly the right time.


Don't forget her expert piloting skills that she gained from who-knows-where to escape Jakku and the tie fighters on the Millenium Falcon.

Oh yeah, that's right. She has the force. Such a lazy cop-out.
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meeple
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics, right down to its near erasure of Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico.
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Don’t bring us into this shite movie. We hated the last one because it was a garbage story, this one appears to be much worse.


So TROS pisses off both TLJ fans and haters? Getting my popcorn ready for the flame wars!


Will Munny
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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walks back a number of potent reveals and plot threads from the last movie


There were no plot threads to continue, Rian Johnson scorched everything and left JJ with shit


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gives Daisy Ridley essentially no real arc of her own. The screenplay never forces her to make any hard choices or live with the consequences of her mistakes.


Holy shit, he's putting that on this movie?




Dam Guide
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
Don’t get your hopes up that you will like this because it walks back on Last Jedi. It’s pretty shite per spoilers. They want to blame us for it being bad, when the last jedi was never good and this makes the whole saga meaningless.


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Dam Guide
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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So TROS pisses off both TLJ fans and haters? Getting my popcorn ready for the flame wars!


Yes, it’s truly a bad movie that everyone will hate.


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tiggerthetooth
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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It represents the cultural theft of Star Wars from today’s kids by today’s arrested-development-stricken adults



Huh? Literally all of these people disliked star wars.

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The Rise of Skywalker feels explicitly crafted for the “Rian Johnson ruined Star Wars!” and “George Lucas ruined my childhood!” demographics, right down to its near erasure of Kelly Marie Tran’s Rose Tico.



Except they didnt please these people either.


Another "blame the fans" garbage for poor writing and directing.


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TigerMyth36
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re: Forbes: ‘Rise Of Skywalker’ Is The Worst ‘Star Wars’ Movie Ever
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Getting my popcorn ready for the flame wars!
The funny thing is that everyone will hate on it but flame each other for hating it for the wrong reasons.


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