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re: ***Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them Official Discussion*** Spoilers
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:42 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
Posted on 11/26/16 at 8:42 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
Are you one of the dudes from the Cinema Sins podcast because they had a significant conversation about NoVags
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Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:34 am to athenslife101
Didn't really care for the movie.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:23 pm to theunknownknight
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This movie looks stupid. I'm assuming anyone who sees this struggles with homosexuality.
I brought my 10 year olds to see this in 3-D over the break. I thought it was entertaining. They loved it.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 3:26 pm to bamafan1001
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JK Rowling has never really been great at thinking out the whole continuity thing. Just look at how ridiculously stupid the rules to Quiddich are. The suitcase world thing was also dumb.
Yeah man, her whole world is just so unbelievable.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 5:50 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
saw it last night. I enjoyed it.
Nice getting back to that universe. I really enjoyed the scenes inside the case.
Johnny Depp showing up at the end was a surprise but I was feeling early on that Colin Ferrel was the big bad based on the way he looked in the previews.
Nice getting back to that universe. I really enjoyed the scenes inside the case.
Johnny Depp showing up at the end was a surprise but I was feeling early on that Colin Ferrel was the big bad based on the way he looked in the previews.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:15 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
I was really enjoying this movie, and the fact that it was mostly light on using callbacks and references to the other stories as a crutch.
It was a cool use of the world to tell an original story.
Then Depp turned up, brought in grendelwald, tethered the whole thing to the main saga, opened up all of the previously noted continuity problems, and nearly ruined it.
I can see just the damn army of character returns, parents, and references just piling on in the future movies.
The incredibly small world created by all of the interconnected relationships and families is one of the few problems I have with the original story. Going to America and doing this whole new story, or using Newt as a catalyst for MOW type movies would expand the universe and retcon the whole scope back to a grand scale.
Instead we're right back where we started for the most part.
Should have known Rowling couldn't leave well enough alone.
It was a cool use of the world to tell an original story.
Then Depp turned up, brought in grendelwald, tethered the whole thing to the main saga, opened up all of the previously noted continuity problems, and nearly ruined it.
I can see just the damn army of character returns, parents, and references just piling on in the future movies.
The incredibly small world created by all of the interconnected relationships and families is one of the few problems I have with the original story. Going to America and doing this whole new story, or using Newt as a catalyst for MOW type movies would expand the universe and retcon the whole scope back to a grand scale.
Instead we're right back where we started for the most part.
Should have known Rowling couldn't leave well enough alone.
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:25 pm to CrippleCreek
Rowling's Harry Potter world would have been so much better and would have opened up so many more stories if they just hadnt been so unbelievable.
She is brilliant with characters and HP was a really enjoyable series but I wish she had gotten some help with her story.
She is brilliant with characters and HP was a really enjoyable series but I wish she had gotten some help with her story.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 9:49 pm to CrippleCreek
All of these new stories are supposed to center around Newt. Your bigger problem should be with Leatrange more than Grindelwald
This post was edited on 11/27/16 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:47 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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The suitcase world thing was also dumb.
I thought it was a neat way of showing how truly brilliant Newt is. It's obviously not some standard suitcase but something he built for himself in order to keep his animals healthy and happy. There were also some boundaries and walls within the case. It wasn't as big as a whole world.
More like a house with a big arse living room and lots of other rooms.
Posted on 11/27/16 at 10:51 pm to WicKed WayZ
I liked the movie. I won't say it was as memorable as Harry Potter, but I was surprised at how different this movie felt than those films.
I did think that was a pretty poor approximation of 1920s New York. It's so easy to tell that it was filmed in England.
I did think that was a pretty poor approximation of 1920s New York. It's so easy to tell that it was filmed in England.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 11:10 am to GoCrazyAuburn
Just saw it last night with the Wife (sorry, no pics) who is a Harry Potter fan.
I liked the movie over-all, not being a HP guy myself.
I think there are some flaws with how the human and magic world are separated. Sorry, but if magic killed a sitting US Senator, you bet the entire War Department’s Military Intelligence Division would be all up in the magic world like white on rice.
Also,it seems the USA was one of the last countries to NOT allow magic and human to marry (yet the president was a black lady, that doesn't make sense). That pretty much apartheid. I have to the think the international magic community would cut of the USA like the world did to South Africa.
And I think Jacob's mind was not blanked. That's why he recognized pink lady.
Anywho, fun movie!
I liked the movie over-all, not being a HP guy myself.
I think there are some flaws with how the human and magic world are separated. Sorry, but if magic killed a sitting US Senator, you bet the entire War Department’s Military Intelligence Division would be all up in the magic world like white on rice.
Also,it seems the USA was one of the last countries to NOT allow magic and human to marry (yet the president was a black lady, that doesn't make sense). That pretty much apartheid. I have to the think the international magic community would cut of the USA like the world did to South Africa.
And I think Jacob's mind was not blanked. That's why he recognized pink lady.
Anywho, fun movie!
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:48 pm to crazycubes
I have to say I'm pretty "meh" on this movie. It wasn't bad, I'm just disappointed on the lack of imagination. Really the only thing we learned about the American Wizarding World is they have a big building, a bar, and forbid contact with Muggles, despite the fact that they clearly live among them and interact with them daily, unlike British Wizards.
I think you could have done so much more with a Wizarding World in New York. There's really nothing to it aside from them living in apartments inhabited by fellow muggles. At least they could have had a Wizarding District where you could have gotten creative with all sorts of Wizards immigrating there and forming their own culture.
JKR needs to get a good writer from America who understands American culture to take over this franchise. It's not beyond repair, but a disappointing start. Hopefully the rest of the franchise is better and darker than this.
I think you could have done so much more with a Wizarding World in New York. There's really nothing to it aside from them living in apartments inhabited by fellow muggles. At least they could have had a Wizarding District where you could have gotten creative with all sorts of Wizards immigrating there and forming their own culture.
JKR needs to get a good writer from America who understands American culture to take over this franchise. It's not beyond repair, but a disappointing start. Hopefully the rest of the franchise is better and darker than this.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:53 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
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I believe they are the new band we will be following. I read that somewhere, but can't remember. I'm curious on what they hold because Grindelwald didn't have the Elder Wand at this time, which he should have. The big duel between Dumbledore and him is in like 1945 where Dumbledore wins the wand from him.
No he has it at this time. Grindelwald got the wand in his late teens to mid 20s. He just used Graves wand because that was who he was impersonating. Graves coming in with the Elder Wand would be a dead giveaway. He's just storing it somewhere for the time being.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:37 pm to ell_13
I feel when she was writing the books she only had a rudimentary idea of scoring in sports. She was probably thinking of soccer and how most of the world is familair with games involving getting balls in a goal.
She then probably remembered that Americans favored higher scoring games and made the points higher to appeal to a broad book buying market. She then also wanted to make a built in trump card. A hard to catch snitch that ends the game and gives you 150 points. Unless the other team has 16 goals to your 0 you automatically win. It's just a silly idea. You would then play the game with the team going for the snitch.
I agree quidditch scoring was out there, but it was a game where kids put their lives on the line just to play. Easily the oddest most dangerous game conceived.
She then probably remembered that Americans favored higher scoring games and made the points higher to appeal to a broad book buying market. She then also wanted to make a built in trump card. A hard to catch snitch that ends the game and gives you 150 points. Unless the other team has 16 goals to your 0 you automatically win. It's just a silly idea. You would then play the game with the team going for the snitch.
I agree quidditch scoring was out there, but it was a game where kids put their lives on the line just to play. Easily the oddest most dangerous game conceived.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:45 pm to Napoleon
Sorry, but Quidditch is simply a story telling device to make Harry more important. No way in hell would Football have considered giveing a player who not only scores 45 points with one action, but also ends the game. 999 times out of 1000, the guy who catches Snitch wins the game, which makes everyone else pointless. That's not how a sport works.
Compare Pro-Bending from the Legend of Korra. It makes total sense and from someone who understands sports. It's not like it the firebender hits someone it wins the game. Quidditch is bullshite.
Compare Pro-Bending from the Legend of Korra. It makes total sense and from someone who understands sports. It's not like it the firebender hits someone it wins the game. Quidditch is bullshite.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:06 pm to GoCrazyAuburn
Newt Scamander just didnt seem like a strong lead character. Thats my only problem with the movie
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:39 pm to Trump4LSU
Watching this now and it's boring as shite and I have listened to all the books and watched the movies.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:57 pm to DoUrden
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I have listened to all the books
Fact, Audiobook people just don't have the imagination to get into these kind of movies.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:00 pm to Napoleon
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Fact, Audiobook people just don't have the imagination to get into these kind of movies.
Whats the difference between reading them and listening to the unabridged audio books? And you are wrong if you don't think this genre is right up my alley, not to mention I liked the original series.
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:05 pm to DoUrden
I liked it okay.
Some thoughts:
1) I didn't learn enough about the main characters to really care about them. Newt needed more dialogue. The Main Girl (can't remember her name, which is a problem) was way too plain looking. I also couldn't figure out her motives until late in the movie.
2) The "Fantastic Beasts" part of the movie didn't really connect to the main plot with Graves/Grindelwald and the Obscurial. It helped show what Newt could do with the help of the beasts and it revealed more about the wizarding world, but I felt like it could have been its own movie. Would have been better too if the whole point of the film was to show Newt finding rare beasts around the world. Maybe a "National Treasure" kind of plot where a separate wizard is hunting them for evil.
3) I didn't like the Grindelwald reveal. Graves seemed like an interesting character who could have been working for Grindelwald. It seems beneath the "Dark Lord" characters to assume someone's identity and work covertly on a mission.
4) I do like the connection to Dumbledore. Ariana Dumbledore was a suppressed magician and could have been an obscurial. This would explain why Grindelwald was so interested in Credence. It wasn't about destroying New York; it was about Ariana. Could it be possible that Dumbledore was trying to keep Ariana alive to harness her power as an obscurial?
Some thoughts:
1) I didn't learn enough about the main characters to really care about them. Newt needed more dialogue. The Main Girl (can't remember her name, which is a problem) was way too plain looking. I also couldn't figure out her motives until late in the movie.
2) The "Fantastic Beasts" part of the movie didn't really connect to the main plot with Graves/Grindelwald and the Obscurial. It helped show what Newt could do with the help of the beasts and it revealed more about the wizarding world, but I felt like it could have been its own movie. Would have been better too if the whole point of the film was to show Newt finding rare beasts around the world. Maybe a "National Treasure" kind of plot where a separate wizard is hunting them for evil.
3) I didn't like the Grindelwald reveal. Graves seemed like an interesting character who could have been working for Grindelwald. It seems beneath the "Dark Lord" characters to assume someone's identity and work covertly on a mission.
4) I do like the connection to Dumbledore. Ariana Dumbledore was a suppressed magician and could have been an obscurial. This would explain why Grindelwald was so interested in Credence. It wasn't about destroying New York; it was about Ariana. Could it be possible that Dumbledore was trying to keep Ariana alive to harness her power as an obscurial?
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