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re: Dune Part 2 does not live up to the hype.

Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:54 am to
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 9:54 am to
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The first one of these or the first one from the 80's?


First one of these. Just was curious on the reasoning behind the "no staying power" argument. It's pretty clear part one has staying power, not sure why this one wouldn't when the majority seem to think it was better than part one. Obviously the hype it is getting is going to die down but I don't think you're going to have some mass amount of people in a year or two start thinking "you know, that movie atually wasn't that good."

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The one from the 80's flopped pretty hard at the box office. Honestly, I've always found it hard to get through in one sitting. Once they start whisper-thinking everything, I just tune it out. I think the only reason it still gets talked about is because it's part of the David Lynch catalog and because it has so many iconic actors in it (and Sting).



Yea it's not really my jam either, and I'm a Lynch fan.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:15 am to
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I don't think you're going to have some mass amount of people in a year or two start thinking "you know, that movie atually wasn't that good."
No, I think it will be similar to Oppenheimer. It was good. I can appreciate the craftsmanship, but I don't really feel like watching it again.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:20 am to
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top 3 sci fi film ever


There is no objective truth on what the best movie, top 3, top 5, etc are because those are opinions.

BUT

I would be curious to see an actual good argument that someone shouldn't have it in their top whatever. One that doesn't involve "my theater didn't clap that much".

I am usually measured in terms of getting excited for things, but it legitimately exceeded the fairly lofty hype I personally had for it.

Stunning visuals, the performances were off the charts. Chalamet in particular really owned the role in part 2, and of course Austin Butler nailed it as well.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:21 am to
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Obviously the hype it is getting is going to die down but I don't think you're going to have some mass amount of people in a year or two start thinking "you know, that movie atually wasn't that good."


I think some people will say that about Oppenheimer. Very good movie, maybe not as good as we thought on first watch.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:34 am to
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Villeneuve is one those directors where there was something about his style that appealed to me, even before I realized all those films were by the same director.


Ditto.
Posted by Yellerhammer5
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 10:55 am to
It’s about as good as a movie is going to get in 2024. I’d say it was adequately hyped.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:22 am to
i’ve only seen his last 3 but they’re all visially very cool movies.

like if you were dead and could t read subtitles you’d be able to with the Dune movies and blade runner and be like, these are fricking cool movies.

On top of that the stories are usually pretty awesome.

I’d betond plot he is great at setting a tone
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:27 am to
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No, I think it will be similar to Oppenheimer. It was good. I can appreciate the craftsmanship, but I don't really feel like watching it again.



I see that with Oppenheimer. I'll watch it again at some point but definitely isn't one you want to immediately rewatch. I'm glad it won best picture though.

I did however immediately want to rewatch Dune 2. We got out of the theatre at about 10:45 or so, but I was so jacked up I probably could have walked right back into the theatre and watched it again right after.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 11:36 am to
Oppenheimer is a dram, and idk if I ever really go back to dramas over and over, but i’d watch it again.

I tend to rewatch comedies more than anything and Dark Comedies the most.

I’ll watch Death of Stalin every like 6 months.
Posted by Scoob
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 2:44 pm to
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I saw someone in another thread calling it on par with Star Wars/Empire Strikes Back



The guy that said this is Christopher Nolan. I'd imagine he knows a thing or two about making a movie.

I don't care what Nolan's credentials are, this is just hyperbole
These do NOT compare to Star Wars, as far as impact.

I'm old enough to have seen Star Wars in the theater in 1977. You need to keep perspective on things;

Star Wars was fricking incredible. It completely outclassed any other SF production, movie or TV, exponentially. Nothing else came ANYWHERE near it. The original Star Trek series was probably the previous top, and people were still watching Flash Gordon serials with Buster Keaton, because nothing made in the 50's or 60's was significantly better from a technical standpoint.

Star Wars ranks up there with the original King Kong in terms of elevating what you can do.

The next ones I would put in that class are LOTR (elevating fantasy to the same tier, and by accomplishing a planned trilogy), and the MCU run from Iron Man to Endgame (for succeeding with a comic book superhero story that ran about 20 movies without a reboot).

The current Dune is "merely" a well-made SF with great production values; it's not redefining the genre.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 6:35 pm to
I kinda wish I could remember what it’s like learning that DV is Luke’s father.

I watched the OT so young that i only ever remember knowing that.
Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:19 pm to
Yikes. I don't remember Star Wars losing to a cartoon sequel at the domestic box office on opening weekend.

Kung Fu Panda 4 Beats Dune: Part Two At Domestic Box Office This Weekend
Posted by Esquire
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:35 pm to
Do you think Dune and Kung Fu Panda have the same target audience?
Posted by Death Before Disco
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:44 pm to
I think I have to see it a few more times before I’m really sure how good it is. It feels like Dune 1 was better, but it took me 2 or 3 watches to really get how good Dune 1 was.

Agree about the uselessness of Resting Bitch Face girl. Biggest casting mistake in the whole movie.

I do wish DV had included more of the politics in it, with more of the BG plot line and the Spacing Guild plot line, etc. The way he maneuvered everything into place for the final confrontation could have added an extra layer to the movie that was missing.

Posted by blueboy
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:45 pm to
Do you think that Dune was intended to be seen by more people than Kung Fu Panda 4? Especially given their respective marketing, or lack thereof? I didn't even know there was a Kung Fu Panda 4.

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Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 7:51 pm to
One of the best movies I’ve ever seen bc of visual/audio combined with amazing acting. Truly the best experience I’ve had in the theater
Posted by RD Dawg
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:06 pm to
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Timothee Chalamet and Austin Butler had really good performances


Chalamet was excellent but not so much with Butler...the head cocking and strut were way over the top and he took it straight from Tim Roth in Planet of the Apes.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:11 pm to
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Do you think that Dune was intended to be seen by more people than Kung Fu Panda 4?


Yes. That’s what happened. Dune made $82.5 million in its opening weekend and Kung Fu Panda made $58 million. Did you even read the article you linked?
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:13 pm to
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I do wish DV had included more of the politics in it, with more of the BG plot line and the Spacing Guild plot line, etc
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 3/11/24 at 8:42 pm to
Yeah, they lost in the domestic market. Panda 4 doesn't have the international distribution that Dune has.
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