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re: Disney's About To Take Yet Another Multi-Million Dollar Loss With Snow White
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:13 pm to theliontamer
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:13 pm to theliontamer
quote:My take on all this, as an older guy, is that Disney is, and has been lost for quite awhile. Just SO many bad and questionable moves.
Political pandering aside, why are they so obsessed with these live action remakes? Those movies were great as cartoons, we don't need a live action remake and nobody asked for that. Musicals are hit or miss. So now you have these musical movie/cartoons with computer effects. Gross.
My perception, as a person who was a child in the 70's:
Disney legacy was great. Timeless animated classics. Wholesome family entertainment. Quality.
It started going wrong in the 90's... my son was little. We didn't watch the Disney Channel, that was just full of snark and sass. We watched stuff like Little Bear and pre-Disney Pooh then, because it was kind and gentle, not snarky.
They did have a hit with the Pirates movies, but other than that, they've been flailing. Buying Star Wars "because kids liked it"... mistake. Kids liked Star Wars for the same reason kids liked WW2 and Western movies- combat, action and adventure with clear good guys and bad guys. That's not the Disney formula, never been.
Same thing with the MCU, "comic books were for kids"... again not the Disney formula. They've taken both and dropped a lot of what made them appealing to start with.
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Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:27 pm to Kinderman
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Disney is not to blame
I disagree….
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Zegler is arguably not to blame either. She is a product of an echo chamber
…because Disney was a major player in creating said echo chamber.; from the writer’s room, casting director, and every single producer who greenlit this farce to score social points and place message over entertainment. Outside of those responsible for the film are Disney execs who slowly but surely shifted the brand towards what it has become, ruining numerous properties along the way.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 9:47 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 9:36 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
$43 million opening weekend with a $270 million production budget. That doesn't sound good.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 10:49 pm to Corinthians420
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Yeah the trolls and incels have ruined the rating system.
I like how every single time some woke arse piece of shite movie comes out and always bombs, you pathetic regressives always have the same excuse.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 10:50 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:06 am to Scoob
There is a lot to disagree with on this post. I'm not a Disney fan or apologist either. Has Disney strayed from the core fan base of certain franchises? Yes lately they have. Disney did not buy Star Wars "because kids like it". They bought it bc it is a huge IP and they can create a theme park area based off that.
They had the opportunity to make a Harry Potter theme area but chose to pass on it bc it was not something they viewed as "Disney". Universal bought it and hired some Disney engineers to develop rides and huge success for them. Reason why Disney did not hesitate to buy Avatar and create rides and entertainment based off that movie in their theme parks.
Disney was huge with Pixar movies in the 90s and early 2000s. No one was calling out Disney then but you claim they started to lose it? What movies did they start to lose it? I don't know many kids that enjoy WW2 or Western movies for the combat? Adults yes but not kids.
They had the opportunity to make a Harry Potter theme area but chose to pass on it bc it was not something they viewed as "Disney". Universal bought it and hired some Disney engineers to develop rides and huge success for them. Reason why Disney did not hesitate to buy Avatar and create rides and entertainment based off that movie in their theme parks.
Disney was huge with Pixar movies in the 90s and early 2000s. No one was calling out Disney then but you claim they started to lose it? What movies did they start to lose it? I don't know many kids that enjoy WW2 or Western movies for the combat? Adults yes but not kids.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:36 am to MasterKnight
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Disney was huge with Pixar movies in the 90s and early 2000s.
Pixar was their own entity in 90s and 2000’s. Disney didn’t buy them until 2006
Posted on 3/24/25 at 12:44 am to tigersaint26
They did not own Pixar but the films were distributed by Disney and all of them have the Walt Disney Pictures present a Pixar Film. When they merchandise was sold in the stores it was under a Disney merchandise tag. So in effect it was more associated with Disney than Pixar.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 1:11 am to GoGators1995
The budget is at least $340 mil
Posted on 3/24/25 at 5:57 am to MasterKnight
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So in effect it was more associated with Disney than Pixar.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 6:18 am to MasterKnight
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They did not own Pixar but the films were distributed by Disney and all of them have the Walt Disney Pictures present a Pixar Film. When they merchandise was sold in the stores it was under a Disney merchandise tag. So in effect it was more associated with Disney than Pixar.
Go ahead and take the loss. In a conversation about Disney not making good decisions or having any creativity, having a different company create 95% of any good products they are remotely associated with over the last 30 years isn’t where you want to hang your hat.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:35 am to Roaad
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Everyone who didn't go see this movie and love it are all the -ist/phobes
You have to add in this line too: "Stop making everything political!"
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---the same 4 posters on this board
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:58 am to Tigerstark
Getting rid of John Lasseter was the nail in the coffin. He got Me-Too’d when it was all the rage and they’ve been going down hill since.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:36 am to theliontamer
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Political pandering aside, why are they so obsessed with these live action remakes
Firstly, to extend their sole intellectual property rights over the characters and the franchises they are a part of.
(Note: the remakes don't extend the original copyrights, but Disney is allowed to acquire new copyrights, keeping the IP out of the public domain)
Secondly, with doing so they continue to make more money and not have to spend money creating a new intellectual property. They want to capitalize on nostalgia
Thirdly, I read a while back that Disney wanted to pursue live action to further interest Chinese audiences, as the Chinese are seemingly not fans of the classic, hand drawn back catalogue. With Disney Parks in Hong Kong and China, leadership noticed that they didn't give a shite about the classic characters and preffered the newer characters.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:40 am to theliontamer
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Political pandering aside, why are they so obsessed with these live action remakes? Those movies were great as cartoons, we don't need a live action remake and nobody asked for that. Musicals are hit or miss. So now you have these musical movie/cartoons with computer effects. Gross.
Money. As much as people love to complain about the live-action remakes. They have been making tons of money for Disney.
The Lion King made 1.6 billion.
Beauty and the Beast made 1.2 billion.
Alladin made 1 billion
The Jungle Book made 966 million
Maleficient made 750 million
The Little Mermaid, which many consider to be a flop, still made 570 million.
Cindarella(2015) made 500 million on only 90 million budget.
Mufasa, an original movie, made 700 million.
Mulan, Peter Pan, Pinnochio, Lady and the Tramp were all straight to Disney + films, so it's harder to compare those.
Lilo & Stitch comes out in a few months, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that make a billion. Then they still have Frozen and Moana that would likely be guaranteed live-action hits.
All in all, these remakes aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Too much money for Disney out there to still be made.
This post was edited on 3/24/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:58 am to Klark Kent
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or the disingenuous dorks who will support it, argue on behalf of it, and boost the ratings simply because people are calling it out as being contrived woke bullshite.
yeah that's pretty much what i mean.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:14 am to Sam Quint
Looks like the audience score is being review bombed into the opposite direction. No chance 75% of the audience liked it
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:16 am to Sam Quint
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yeah that's pretty much what i mean.
yeah. i knew where you stood on the matter, i was just more heavy handedly emphasizing your well made point. 
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:22 am to QJenk
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Lilo & Stitch comes out in a few months, and I wouldn't be surprised at all to see that make a billion. Then they still have Frozen and Moana that would likely be guaranteed live-action hits.
And looks phenomenal with the same voice actor for Stitch. I have no doubt this makes a billion.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:32 am to Proximo
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No chance 75% of the audience liked it
Cry harder
Posted on 3/24/25 at 10:50 am to Scoob
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started going wrong in the 90's... my son was little. We didn't watch the Disney Channel, that was just full of snark and sass. We watched stuff like Little Bear and pre-Disney Pooh then, because it was kind and gentle, not snarky.
The 90s were arguably the greatest time ever for Disney with that run of films and then Pixar merger.
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