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re: Disney Exec Blames The Marvels Flop on Bigoted Audience Members
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:18 am to LSUNWO1988
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:18 am to LSUNWO1988
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Their initial plan(which was actually good) was to release a movie every year. A “main storyline” every two years with movies like Rogue One and Solo in between. They could have KILLED it with the right direction. Instead we got the sequel trilogy and guess what? No movies in like 7 years.
A little of that concerns COVID, but it mostly got derailed after The Last Jedi debacle. TLJ sucked; it killed Solo's chances at BO success and then forced Abrams to try to come in and save the trilogy with nothing to work with. They've been reeling creatively ever since then.
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The best part?
KATHLEEN KENNEDY STILL HAS A FREAKING JOB
The sequel trilogy still raked in billions. That's all they care about. You could argue she's killed the long-term success of the franchise.
Kennedy planned to make a new generation of Star Wars fans by catering to young shitlibs who live online. They ignored the core audience and didn't do anything to appeal to kids (something Lucas understood yet took shite for).
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Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:19 am to RoyalAir
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Disney took a multi-billion dollar enterprise such as Star Wars and turned it into something utterly toxic within a decade.
you misspelled a UNIVERSALLY LOVED FRANCHISE
prior to disney absolutely screwing this up, i dont recall anyone hating on star wars (except freddie mercury)
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:25 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Knew this was coming at some point.
Couldn’t possibly be because they built a tent pole picture around one very divisive lead (Larson) and two leads who were introduced on D+ TV shows which weren’t really seen by many.
Hell, I’m familiar with a lot of the source material they cribbed to make the movie (Avengers - Operation Galactic Storm and the Live Kree Or Die story running in Avengers and some other books) and I still had little interest in seeing it.
Couldn’t possibly be because they built a tent pole picture around one very divisive lead (Larson) and two leads who were introduced on D+ TV shows which weren’t really seen by many.
Hell, I’m familiar with a lot of the source material they cribbed to make the movie (Avengers - Operation Galactic Storm and the Live Kree Or Die story running in Avengers and some other books) and I still had little interest in seeing it.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:25 am to Dizz
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No one complained about Rogue One being based around Jyn Erso.
correct.
great movie, and the tv series is even better, and Mon Mothma is probably the most important character in the tv series, mainly b/c we know she's the only one that has a future in Star Wars, but everytime that character was on the screen it was intense
and we are going to have to hear all this shite again when that obviously shitty show The Acolyte comes out and everyone hates it.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:27 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Select members of the M/TV board will soon be here to argue with us
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:29 am to Triple Bogey
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Its pretty simple really. Know your fricking audience. How hard is it to make princess stories for the girls and make super hero movies for the boys? Stop trying to force a narrative in a story where there doesn't need to be one.
You still don't see it.
Disney is not interested in selling movies if they can't include the messaging. They aren't a film company, they are activists who happen to use movies as their medium to speak to their audience of children and pre-teens.
The product to them isn't the movie, the messaging is the product.
Elsa is the sugar to help the medicine (their progressive messaging) go down and to capture kids in their parents living rooms.
This post was edited on 2/23/24 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:30 am to CAD703X
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prior to disney absolutely screwing this up, i dont recall anyone hating on star wars (except freddie mercury)
Hayden Christensen, Jake Lloyd, and Ahmed Best would like a word with you
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:33 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Even if they're right I think they should be very sensitive to criticism as anyone creating art/entertainment is. Like van Gogh had a bad audience for his time and wouldn't be recognized until years later but at least he had the decency to take it personally and kill himself
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:40 am to CarolinaGamecock99
"Beatings will continue until morale improves."
Hollywood and leftists in general do not believe there's a world where people have another valid perspective. They only have their perspective and will spam it at you until you accept it.
I love how hard headed they are and I hope they go into financial ruin and finally end their tyranny.
Hollywood and leftists in general do not believe there's a world where people have another valid perspective. They only have their perspective and will spam it at you until you accept it.
I love how hard headed they are and I hope they go into financial ruin and finally end their tyranny.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:53 am to CAD703X
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prior to disney absolutely screwing this up, i dont recall anyone hating on star wars (except freddie mercury
The Prequels got a LOT of hate, it was just DIFFERENT hate.
Prior to the sequels, the running debate was whether the "worst" movie was The Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones.
Jake Lloyd was bullied so profusely he gave up acting.
The main difference is what went wrong:
For the Prequels, it was no one acting as a filter for Lucas. He's a great "big idea" guy, but once you start getting into the little things he's pretty bad. A lot of what helped the original trilogy was when others would listen to Lucas and then say, "That is stupid" or "This dialogue is horrible."
He was a billionaire by the time the prequels came out, and billionaires are surrounded by people who never tell them their ideas are bad.
The sequels have their own problems and messes, but that doesn't magically make the prequels "good" movies. They still suck.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:56 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Of course.
Like a fricking 5 year old blaming everyone else for their dumbass actions.
Like a fricking 5 year old blaming everyone else for their dumbass actions.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 10:58 am to TeddyPadillac
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It's selecting writers and directors that have no clue what the source material is, no clue what their main audience wants to see, nor do they have respect for the source material, regardless of their genital preference.
Incorrect.
The writers/directors know exactly what they're doing.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:05 am to skrayper
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For the Prequels, it was no one acting as a filter for Lucas. He's a great "big idea" guy, but once you start getting into the little things he's pretty bad. A lot of what helped the original trilogy was when others would listen to Lucas and then say, "That is stupid" or "This dialogue is horrible."
Bingo.
Read his original version of the script.
I got about as far as finding out that the original hero name was something like Luke Starkiller and I noped out. Probably wouldn’t have seemed as bad if I hadn’t known that the climax was him blowing up the Death STAR using The Force to guide the torpedos.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:06 am to skrayper
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The sequels have their own problems and messes, but that doesn't magically make the prequels "good" movies. They still suck.
Clone Wars and nostalgia saved the prequels.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:21 am to Mickey Goldmill
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The sequel trilogy didn't flop because of Daisy Ridley, imo. It flopped because of a terrible story and no continuity.
Her forced insertion into the lead role due to Force is Female DEI reasons is an integral part of the reasons why it was a terrible story with no continuity. So yes, the sequel did indeed flop because of Daisy Ridley, but no she isn't the only reason it flopped. There are quite a few more, but she is the fulcrum of all the reasons that could be laid out.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:21 am to skrayper
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The Prequels got a LOT of hate, it was just DIFFERENT hate.
i competely forgot about the prequels
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:33 am to skrayper
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The Prequels got a LOT of hate, it was just DIFFERENT hate.
The prequels are the perfect example of a great story lost in sloppy story telling, bad acting and directing. Lucas simply could not handle the descent into the darkside with the deftness that it required. Anakin went from denying all darkness to slaughtering children in the snap of a finger. It was beyond ridiculous and completely unbelievable. Other characters were poorly handled as well throughout the movies.
The political dynamics and overall plot though were great. It's unfortunate the story telling them was so poorly delivered. Still I will watch these before anything Disney Star Wars.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:51 am to Midget Death Squad
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Her forced insertion into the lead role due to Force is Female DEI reasons is an integral part of the reasons why it was a terrible story with no continuity. So yes, the sequel did indeed flop because of Daisy Ridley, but no she isn't the only reason it flopped. There are quite a few more, but she is the fulcrum of all the reasons that could be laid out.
I think that's more the fault of her character than the actress. Daisy Ridley did fine with what she was given - it's not her fault she got approached for the role of a lifetime.
I'd say one of the main reasons it flopped is because of the character of Rey. The writing and direction for Rey is more at fault.
Posted on 2/23/24 at 11:58 am to CarolinaGamecock99
Audiences don't like Disney movies as of late and aren't watching
Disney execs attack and insult audiences for not wanting to watch.
Audiences, after being attacked and insulted, have even more animosity toward Disney and will watch even less
Very bold strategy by Disney
Disney execs attack and insult audiences for not wanting to watch.
Audiences, after being attacked and insulted, have even more animosity toward Disney and will watch even less
Very bold strategy by Disney
Posted on 2/23/24 at 12:03 pm to CarolinaGamecock99
These people have a mental disorder.
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