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re: Chernobyl Episode 5 "Vichnaya Pamyat" - Season Finale

Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:49 pm to
It’s just called the Chernobyl podcast
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
3860 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 1:52 pm to
Leonid Toptunov
25 years old, the reason they brought up Yuri Gagarin in the show is, he was Leonid babysitter when Leonid was 3 months old.

Leonid mother and father worked in and around the USSR space program. His mother did not want him to go to school to study nuclear engineering.

He dead May 14 1986.
Posted by gringeaux
DFW
Member since Oct 2008
2013 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:13 pm to
LINK

Here is a link for the podcast on youtube.
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
16149 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:15 pm to
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I'm not big on fabricated female characters for the sake of it,


Like any character as long as they fit and its not force feed to the audience then I don't see the problem. The actress nailed it and the character didn't seem out of place. I don't get why some on here got bothered by it so much.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 2:42 pm to
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I thought It was 6.
HBO gave them the green light for 6 but the filmmakers figured out a way to do it on five.

I suspect the original plan had an episode before what we saw that started twelve hours before the test when we see Dyatlov walking across the park full of people and followed everything up until BOOM, just more of what we saw in the fifth episode. Then the original second episode through the fifth was what we got as the first four episodes. I also suspect the sixth episode was to be just the trial and aftermath that we saw in the fifth episode, just more of that, too.

I figure they realized they could tell both stories in the original first and sixth episodes at once way more effectively if they wove the testimony and footage from inside the control room together in the fifth episode and just scrap the first episode completely.
This post was edited on 6/4/19 at 6:58 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 3:21 pm to
He said almost exactly that in an interview

quote:

And for me, doing Chernobyl, I started with six, and as I was working, I said, “You know what? It’s going to be five. Because I think these two need to be smashed together.”


[link=https://www.vox.com/culture/2019/6/4/18647339/chernobyl-finale-hbo-truth-how-accurate]LINK[/link]

Posted by tigerpimpbot
Chairman of the Pool Board
Member since Nov 2011
69095 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:40 pm to
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But if the information in the series was accurate, he did so many unsafe acts thinking that the AZ-5 button could still bail him out.


Spoiler





Right. He thought he could just hit the AZ-5 button but they said in the closing expert testimony that the on-site workers weren’t told by the hierarchy that the graphite tips would cause an explosion under those circumstances. Fascinating perfect storm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 5:57 pm to
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more effectively if they wove the testimony and footage from inside the control room together in the final episode and just scrap the first episode completely.


It worked so well. What a great final episode.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 6:51 pm to
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Right. He thought he could just hit the AZ-5 button but they said in the closing expert testimony that the on-site workers weren’t told by the hierarchy that the graphite tips would cause an explosion under those circumstances. Fascinating perfect storm


I thought that Legasov's board with his green and red cards was an utterly brilliant way to illustrate the interplay of factors that contribute to reactivity and level of criticality without getting into the technical aspects that can make it hard to understand.

You weren't going to successfully run a reactor based on that testimony, but you innately understood what he was explaining to you even if you didn't have a hope in hell of ever understanding the math and physics underpinning it. His bullet analogy in the second episode was pretty damned good, too.

I'm gonna miss my Monday dose of horror. HBO produced a gem.

ETA: Damn you people. The cards were green and I'm sticking to it!
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 8:51 am
Posted by JCinBAMA
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 8:16 pm to
Posted by Pectus
Internet
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:30 pm to
Whi new TD had so many nuclear engineers.

So many in these threads giving their sealof approval getting the science right.

There are 60 nuclear power plants in the US and quite a few of the engineers post here, evidently!
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:30 pm to
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green and red cards



Green????
You are color blind
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23555 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:41 pm to
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lack of correct accents is all I can muster up. But frick it, that was so awesome. Never seen a show that manages to be so bleak yet powerful at the same time.



The director explained that he feared the actors would sound too "cartoonish" if they attempted to speak English with a Russian accent.


Accents are irrelevant, as the dialogue and spoken language would be Russian in reality.
I suppose British viewers would be 'distracted' if there were American accents.

I simply saw great and convincing performances. I agree with the director, shoving in a forced Russian accent would have been a mistake.

Heck, I thought they did a good job with projecting the accents anyway; the scientists spoke a cultured, refined accent. The politicians spoke with more of a gruff, blunt accent. The workers had varying dialects which seemed regional and sometimes 'uncouth'. It showed a social layering, something more pronounced with British English as compared to American. As long as they were able to project that, they did a good job.
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
32184 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 10:50 pm to
I am a Nuke. I have been briefed on Chernobyl.

I was skeptical for Episode 1. But not for long.


The series was .... brilliant. In every possible way.


An absolute masterpiece.


I will retain HBO for this reason alone....just in the hopes that they can even come close to something like Chernobyl again.

Needed this after GOT fell flat.
Posted by Nodust
Member since Aug 2010
22802 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:04 pm to
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green and red cards



Green????
You are color blind

Either he is or I am.
Posted by messyjesse
Member since Nov 2015
2299 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:10 pm to
Through all the horrible shite we saw I might honestly be the most unnerved at the graphic in the end describing how they can never recover that dude's body. It's like the corpses on Everest--you know they're there but you can't do anything about it. Worst still that this guy's corpse is destined to just eat radiation for God knows how long (assuming there's even anything left). At least the liquidators got something of a proper (if extremely crude and ignominious) burial.

Great miniseries.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:10 pm to
It was clearly red and blue cards.

And not greenish blue cards, basic blue ones
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131611 posts
Posted on 6/4/19 at 11:20 pm to
Calm down comrade nurse
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 12:10 am to
Just finished. God damn what an incredible series. The book ends of the very first dialogue and the very last was poetic.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16741 posts
Posted on 6/5/19 at 5:50 am to
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Whi new TD had so many nuclear engineers. So many in these threads giving their sealof approval getting the science right. There are 60 nuclear power plants in the US and quite a few of the engineers post here, evidently!


You don’t have to be nuke to understand what they discussed on the show and their is so much written on Chernobyl, it was easy to find material on it. The directors used that material quite effectively.

It’s also not surprising there is a lot of engineers here that worked in the industry. It’s a very stressful career that has a good bit of turn over. It’s pretty easy for a competent engineer to get a job in nuke. The only 2 people I’ve met IRL from here were engineers in nuke at the time as well.
This post was edited on 6/5/19 at 6:03 am
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