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Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:05 pm
Posted by Jmcc64
alabama
Member since Apr 2021
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:05 pm
watched the first 20 minutes of "The Big Sleep" other night on TCM and in that time 2 (and possibly 3) dames he meets immediately fall for or throws herself at him. A few pithy remarks from Bogie and it's lights out.

I wonder if guys back in the 40's were as perplexed as myself at how a short, unattractive, gruff looking dude was pulling in so much tail. I know it's a movie (make believe) but it's not even remotely believable. whatever.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3378 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:22 pm to
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The Big Sleep


Dorothy Malone as bookstore clerk would definitely get it.

And attractive women are frequently with men with are less attractive and it is not just a money thing either. Believe it or not there are women who actually value a man with character etc. Get off of social media and meet real women with values.

This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 7:26 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95795 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:26 pm to
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Dorothy Malone as bookstore clerk would definitely get it.



Not for nothing, but she wasn't a bad looking old broad in her late 60s -

Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:30 pm to
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95795 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 7:30 pm to
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I wonder if guys back in the 40's were as perplexed as myself at how a short, unattractive, gruff looking dude was pulling in so much tail.


Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
21894 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:08 pm to
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I wonder if guys back in the 40's were as perplexed as myself at how a short, unattractive, gruff looking dude was pulling in so much tail.
Posted by HueyLongJr
Member since Oct 2007
1086 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:26 pm to
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short, unattractive, gruff looking dude


you forgot the lisp. Bogart from 1939-1951 was pretty impressive. He could do line readings like no one else. Check out the scene when he tells Mary Astor that he’s giving her up in The Maltese Falcon. It’s almost FedEx guy level of speed talking. But intense.
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
33852 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 8:29 pm to
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wonder if guys back in the 40's were as perplexed as myself at how a short, unattractive, gruff looking dude was pulling in so much tail.
It was different back then because a man being pretty wasn't important to women when men were their sole providers. Neither sex was as shallow as people have become. Being someone they got along with and thought they could love was more important. Nobody was posting their life on the internet with filters or getting plastic surgery.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 8:32 pm
Posted by A12 Oxcart
On the float out in the Belt
Member since Dec 2022
1233 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:19 am to
He didn't have a whole lot of range as an actor, either.
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2502 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:03 am to
he was a movie star. Played the same role in every film - brash guy who talked fast and was blunt. But he was perfect at it and the studio loved him.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
115815 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:07 am to
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Played the same role in every film


The Caine Mutiny would like a word
Posted by MAROON
Houston
Member since Jul 2012
2502 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:25 am to
same way of delivering his lines. Short and fast
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
14158 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 10:58 am to
He didn't have a whole lot of range as an actor, either.
—oh brother. When you reach that level of stardom, people go to see the star, not to critique his stylistic nuances.
Tom Cruise, Harrison Ford, Tom Hanks,etc
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95795 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 11:21 am to
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same way of delivering his lines. Short and fast


He had dressed himself up as a crazy person in Treasure of the Sierra Madre, as well. He was brilliant in most of his "non-detective" roles, but Caine Mutiny was different.

The crew and onlookers gave him a standing ovation after cut in the courtroom scene. That just doesn't happen, often (Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men, also a courtroom scene.)
Posted by nealnan8
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2016
4848 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:01 pm to
Bogey had one of the great faces of all time. Not saying he's good looking, but just an expressive and somewhat sad and dropey face.
Posted by Kafka
I am the moral conscience of TD
Member since Jul 2007
157786 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 7:53 pm to
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He didn't have a whole lot of range as an actor
Have you ever seen Sabrina?



The role was intended for Cary Grant

FWIW, this was probably the closest Bogart ever came to playing himself. He was the preppie son of a NY doctor and was on his way to Yale when WWI broke out and he joined the navy.
Posted by OWLFAN86
Erotic Novelist
Member since Jun 2004
196865 posts
Posted on 6/5/26 at 8:04 pm to
my penises nickname is Bogey for that reason

all the chicks were babes,, that movie was made for men, especially teenage boys
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
8503 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:10 am to
Best the Devil is a good flick sort of a comedy in the Maltese falcon vein with two gorgeous female leads.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20529 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 12:45 am to
I am relatively certain women did not think he was unattractive
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58331 posts
Posted on 6/6/26 at 8:34 am to
He came off as very masculine . Women love that.
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