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re: Andor Season 2 Discussion (All Episodes Available)
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
My bad. I thought you were refeencing Rogue one.
I didn't mind the concept of the scene in Andor as the Force is a very real thing in this universe, but I didn't care for the execution of it. I didn't like how they made the force healer my crazy, liberal, prius-driving Unitarian neighbor. I think I need more Rasta energy from my force healers.
I didn't mind the concept of the scene in Andor as the Force is a very real thing in this universe, but I didn't care for the execution of it. I didn't like how they made the force healer my crazy, liberal, prius-driving Unitarian neighbor. I think I need more Rasta energy from my force healers.
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Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:55 pm to BottomlandBrew
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:56 pm to Esquire
That would have been cool
Posted on 5/8/25 at 2:57 pm to Esquire
let's see it as a spin-off 
Posted on 5/8/25 at 3:00 pm to Esquire
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Ezra and Kanan were active Jedi in the Rebellion so there is a good chance he would have met them in person.
maybe, but probably not. the rebellion was spread out all over the place and not coordinating together until Mothma started doing so, and she had a hard time controlling all of the bands of rebels throughout the galaxy, and she hasn't gotten anywhere near that point yet in this show.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 6:23 pm to TeddyPadillac
LINK
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Whether you love the two-season Rogue One prequel Andor (we do) or hate it, one thing has so far distinguished it from all other Star Wars filmed entertainment. Not one single Force user is present in this increasingly dark story of the Dark Times. The Empire is ascendant, the Rebellion is threadbare, and years after the Emperor's Order 66 wiped out the Jedi, Force users are a myth. Right?
Wrong, as we discovered in Andor season 2, episode 7, "Messenger." After another BBY time jump, we find Cassian Andor (Diego Luna) and his girlfriend Bix Caleen (Adria Arjona) on the planet Yavin 4, where Rebel forces are assembling and organizing for the events of Rogue One and the original Star Wars. Cassian has a nasty wound on his back, so Bix takes him to see a "Force healer" who works as a cook in the kitchens.
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Cassian is highly skeptical, but not only does the unnamed Force healer (Josie Walker) fix his wound, she sees his future. Nothing precise, no looming Death Star or the plans for it that Cassian will help transmit just before his death, but a clear sense of his destiny — that he's a "messenger" who has "some place he needs to be." The healer is knocked back by the experience, the clearest vision of the Force she's seen in years.
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The Force "is not pervasive" at this point in the galaxy's history, creator and showrunner Tony Gilroy told Mashable. He discovered as much when he asked Lucasfilm Story Group, the keepers of Star Wars canon, a series of questions on the topic. "How many beings are aware of the Force? Almost none. It's such a rarified, small segment, but I would have felt wrong if I didn't have it, and it fit.
"As I rolled into the second season, I realized that destiny was really such a huge part of what made Cassian special, and the idea of reluctant destiny is always fascinating, right? I mean, we have some religions based on that."
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Gilroy confirmed the Force healer is no Jedi, and that she means everything she says: "She has no game." He compared her character to the character played by Whoopi Goldberg in the 1990 Patrick Swayze movie Ghost — a "flim-flam psychic" who suddenly has a genuine experience of Swayze's character in the beyond.
That idea made the scene "palatable to me," Gilroy said. "She thanks him because she hasn't felt it in a long time... That made it real, that makes it more powerful."
Posted on 5/8/25 at 7:25 pm to sicboy
That’s a really good explanation through that. I thought it was really well done, especially in a show that’s not really about the force at all, but we know it’s out there.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 8:49 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Holy. Cow.
WOW.
Episode 8 was just stunning and heart wrenching.
Syril. Damn. A wasted life.
Dedra actually cared about him and is… human? A little bit?
Love showing the two of them starting to realize that what the Empire is asking them to do is not theoretical. Gilroy put them right on the front row of the horror they’ve unleashed.
Episode 9 was executed so well. We know both Mon and Cassian survive, but I almost couldn’t take the tension.
This is the Star Wars trilogy we’ve been waiting for:
Andor, Season 1
Andor, Season 2
Rogue One
Dear God, there better be more Krennic in the next 3 episodes.
Looking forward to a Rogue One rewatch.
WOW.
Episode 8 was just stunning and heart wrenching.
Syril. Damn. A wasted life.
Dedra actually cared about him and is… human? A little bit?
Love showing the two of them starting to realize that what the Empire is asking them to do is not theoretical. Gilroy put them right on the front row of the horror they’ve unleashed.
Episode 9 was executed so well. We know both Mon and Cassian survive, but I almost couldn’t take the tension.
This is the Star Wars trilogy we’ve been waiting for:
Andor, Season 1
Andor, Season 2
Rogue One
Dear God, there better be more Krennic in the next 3 episodes.
Looking forward to a Rogue One rewatch.
Posted on 5/8/25 at 9:53 pm to bluestem75
Speaking of dear departed Syril was the slap Enza gave him indicative of a romance between the two or am I reading too much into it? He also was trying to get her in the crowd before the massacre happened
Posted on 5/8/25 at 11:00 pm to DMagic
Can we give an Emmy to Diego Luna for most Tom Cruise-like running?
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:36 am to bluestem75
And as we toss well-deserved roses at Tony Gilroy's feet, let's not forget his first writing credit was for this (this is not a knock, I love this movie)
Posted on 5/9/25 at 6:41 am to bluestem75
Watching this show not only gives more meaning to Rogue One, but A New Hope as well. Think about the Empire dissolving the Senate and then blowing up one of its member planets. That’s like a US President dissolving Congress and then dropping a nuke on a State.
Obviously those moments were big in A New Hope, but after watching this show, it just gives it more meaning, imo.
Obviously those moments were big in A New Hope, but after watching this show, it just gives it more meaning, imo.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 7:09 am to udtiger
I learned yesterday he was one of the screenwriters for The Devil's Advocate.
That and Andor, can do no wrong in my eyes.
That and Andor, can do no wrong in my eyes.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:14 am to sicboy
https://ew.com/andor-creator-mocked-by-son-not-including-famous-rogue-one-line-11730406
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Tony Gilroy created Andor's 'Rebellions are built on hope' origin story after his son mocked him.
"Rebellions are built on hope."
It's an iconic rejoinder in Rogue One: A Star Wars Story. First, Cassian Andor (Diego Luna) says it to Jyn Erso (Felicity Jones) when he explains they'll have to hope her name is enough to get them an audience with Saw Guerrera (Forest Whitaker).
Later, Jyn uses the phrase when she's trying to convince the Rebel council to greenlight the mission to capture the Death Star plans.
Now, Andor has added an extra layer to the echoing notion of "hope" throughout the galaxy. In episode 8, "Who Are You?", Cassian travels back to Ghorman, this time using the pseudonym of a journalist. There, he encounters the same bellhop, Thela (Stefon Crepon), he met back in episode 5.
Thela recognizes Cassian, but he doesn't blow his cover. When Cassian tells Thela that he hopes things work out for him, Thela replies, "Rebellions are built on hope," inventing a rallying cry to action.
However, this was never part of creator Tony Gilroy's master plan. In fact, he added it to the season 2 scripts after his son teased him about it. "My son is a big Star Wars fan, and he often comes to the house and busts my balls at the computer about how little I know," Gilroy explains. "One day he's there at the house and he's goofballing on me, and he's like, 'Well, who's going to introduce 'rebellions are built on hope'?"
"And I go, 'What do you mean?'" Gilroy continues. "He goes, 'Well, in Rogue One, Diego says it. And Jyn repeats it.' And I go, 'Well, isn't that from somewhere?' He goes, 'No, man, what are you talking about? You better figure that out.'"
By the time they had this conversation, Gilroy didn't have a ton of runway left in his writing, so he decided to give it to the minor character of this bellhop fighting for his people in Ghorman. "The hotel clerk is such a groovy little character," he says. "It definitely comes from my son busting me on not having it in earlier [scripts]. I was like, 'Good catch.' So that's where it comes from."
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:32 am to Esquire
Let me first say Andor is one of my favorite series and I can’t get enough.
With that said, anyone else tired of Cassein always being a whiny bitch? He’s such a Debbie downer and pissed at the world.
With that said, anyone else tired of Cassein always being a whiny bitch? He’s such a Debbie downer and pissed at the world.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:33 am to bluestem75
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Love showing the two of them starting to realize that what the Empire is asking them to do is not theoretical. Gilroy put them right on the front row of the horror they’ve unleashed.
Syril just wanted a little fascism and fondue, once he realized he was just a tool in committing an atrocity he was pissed the frick off. I don't even blame him 1 bit for lowering the gun on cassian because he was still processing that he was on the wrong side the entire time and realized that maybe all his efforts going against cassian were all just helping the bad side
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:36 am to dallastiger55
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With that said, anyone else tired of Cassein always being a whiny bitch? He’s such a Debbie downer and pissed at the world.
I think it is a more human portrayal. He keeps asking Luthen what he has to give, and saying he's given all he has. He's ready to be done and then Bix knows he means it so she dips, then we all know that he really does give it all and in the end it does pay off.
but as a guy living in the moment he doesn't know if his efforts are gonna do anything to stop the empire. he keeps watching them win. it makes sense that he doesn't wanna lose his life for a cause that he isn't sure will result in anything.
He does complain a lot, but as we saw with him getting Mon Mothma out of the senate he is the guy that when all the marbles are on the line, he is the only one able and willing to risk his life and get the job done at any cost.
it's a pretty big sacrifice when he has a girl he loves at home.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 9:41 am
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:48 am to Corinthians420
I appreciate them not making him a superhero spy man right from the beginning of the season. It's been fascinating watching him grow into what he'll be in Rogue One.
Posted on 5/9/25 at 9:50 am to Corinthians420
Here’s something cool from Andor
They use 1/4 inch TRS stereo jacks! I bet they have some cool amps and effects.
Of course, those have to be Imperial, being 1/4 inch. Rebel scum probably use the metric system.
They use 1/4 inch TRS stereo jacks! I bet they have some cool amps and effects.
Of course, those have to be Imperial, being 1/4 inch. Rebel scum probably use the metric system.
This post was edited on 5/9/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/9/25 at 4:04 pm to wareaglepete
So who thinks Luthen was a jedi at one point?
He's got a kyber crystal that he tells Cassian “just know it will always be worth more to me.”
He's got a jedi and sith holocron in the back room in his shop
He seems to care about his cane, which resembles a light saber hilt.
From his speech in season 1:
“I wake up every day to an equation I wrote fifteen years ago from which there’s only one conclusion, I’m damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they’ve set me on a path from which there is no escape.”
You know what happened 15 years ago? Order 66.
The first thing he said in his speech after being asked "and what do you sacrifice?"
CALM
HIs speech sounds like what a grey jedi would say.
He's got a kyber crystal that he tells Cassian “just know it will always be worth more to me.”
He's got a jedi and sith holocron in the back room in his shop
He seems to care about his cane, which resembles a light saber hilt.
From his speech in season 1:
“I wake up every day to an equation I wrote fifteen years ago from which there’s only one conclusion, I’m damned for what I do. My anger, my ego, my unwillingness to yield, my eagerness to fight, they’ve set me on a path from which there is no escape.”
You know what happened 15 years ago? Order 66.
The first thing he said in his speech after being asked "and what do you sacrifice?"
CALM
HIs speech sounds like what a grey jedi would say.
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