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re: Andor (Disney+) Season Thread

Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:58 am to
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:58 am to
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A coworker and proclaimed Star Wars fan hates this show bc there are no Jedi/lightsabers/Force. I told her it’s a big reason why it’s so good, they have to actually create a story and not rely on that crutch.


And no Skywalker story arc
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:01 pm to
Summer 2024 is the expected release for season 2. It will have four story blocks where 3 episodes cover one year leading into Rogue One.
This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:03 pm to
I need to go back and watch but did I see Syril outside of Andor's mother's house. If so I guess he is doing his own investigation.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:33 pm to
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four story blacks


Damn liberals struck again.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 12:34 pm to
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I need to go back and watch but did I see Syril outside of Andor's mother's house.


No. That was the "prefect"
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:42 pm to
LINK

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"We sort of set up this back-history that he had a family, that he was a factory worker, a shop steward and a foreman in his life outside of prison, but he was very vocal about workers’ rights. And then he forgot all about that as soon as he was in prison and just became a tough shell of his former self. He just wanted to get through the day. And in that moment that you are talking about, the scales fall from his eyes, and he re-engages with his truth and finds himself again."


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Serkis had worked on the character’s backstory to the point he felt it was likely Loy was arrested while protesting, which makes his descent into the desensitized and brusque floor manager even more tragic:



"Yeah, in my mind, he was vocally standing up for workers’ rights and that was seen as being unpatriotic in some way, or that he was stepping out of line and being a troublemaker."


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When Kino reaches the exit of the prison, he reveals in a crushing development that he can’t swim, which is the only way out of the facility. It’s dropped on Cassian and the viewers in the final moments of their escape, but according to Serkis, this had been playing on Kino’s mind the whole time. He was deliberately sacrificing his life, knowing that he likely wouldn’t be able to escape with everyone else. This is why he struggled making his big speech earlier on, knowing that he couldn’t join them.


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"Yeah, absolutely. And that’s exactly why I wanted him to have been from a place of integrity prior to being in prison, and that the Empire — in all its cruelty and desensitization and its way of holding people down and divide and rule — has just knocked it out of him.

But then in [episode 10], he finds that desire to act on behalf of others again, to serve others, to enable others to find their freedom, even though he knows ultimately it’s not going to happen for him. So it really was a wonderful arc. It was a wonderful journey that I was able to go on with all that."



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When the interviewer asked what became of Kino Loy after the escape, Andy Serkis actually remained coy and tight-lipped about it.



Perhaps that wasn’t the last we’ve seen of Kino Loy after all.



This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 5:48 pm
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 5:47 pm to
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Perhaps that wasn’t the last we’ve seen of Kino Loy after all.


Of course he’ll be back. Why else not show him die?
Posted by lostinbr
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 6:55 pm to
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It’s dropped on Cassian and the viewers in the final moments of their escape, but according to Serkis, this had been playing on Kino’s mind the whole time. He was deliberately sacrificing his life, knowing that he likely wouldn’t be able to escape with everyone else. This is why he struggled making his big speech earlier on, knowing that he couldn’t join them.

That’s definitely what I took away from it. I thought it was pretty brilliant acting.. one of those little touches that you appreciate as a viewer. He was hesitant enough that it kind of grabbed my attention - as in “hey, something’s kind of weird here.” But not so hesitant that it became distracting. And then what he said he can’t swim it’s “oh shite, THAT’S what was getting to him!”
Posted by TideWarrior
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Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 7:20 pm to
LINK

Pretty good write up about the show and agrees with what most are saying.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
29857 posts
Posted on 11/10/22 at 9:34 pm to
That article got me looking up empire hardware to see what parts they might be making. I'm thinking they may be parts that connect the the fighter wing to the body. The size and shape makes sense. Tie fighter wings can collapse, so that may explain the joints. I don't know. Just spit balling ideas.

Here's a life size tie fighter showing how the part they are making is similar in size to the wing connection.



Eta: this show is still amazing. Best Star Wars in a long, long time. Maybe the best since ESB. No other SW show/movie has come close to showing how truly evil the empire is. Yeah, we know how evil the dark side can be (Anakin murdering tons of kids), but we've never truly seen how evil the rank and file empire employee is and how they made life suck for tge common man. It's like we are finally getting to see why the rebellion formed.

This post was edited on 11/10/22 at 9:51 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 11/10/22 at 11:18 pm to
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Syril is either going to turncoat over to the rebels or he'll continue down this Moby Dick obsession he has with Cassian and go down in a blaze of glory.

He's on the same trail as the ISD, but isn't aware of their plans. He's going to do what HE thinks is the right thing, and screw up their sting.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35379 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 4:00 pm to
I’m starting to feel like a broken record,
as every week I’m saying “this was the best episode yet.” But it’s true. It just keeps getting better, and this was no exception. Serkis was phenomenal, and he gave an all time great speech/monologue, and it wasn’t even the best one of the episode. Stellan’s was in the running for the greatest. Just absolutely phenomenal.

Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58513 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 4:25 pm to
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In my mind Kino found another way out and there is nothing anyone can tell me otherwise.
ITs what made the scene so great. He just risked his life to ecase a prison and he succeeded only yo see the way out and he cant go because of something simple like he cant swim.. It was almost funny to him because he excepted death in the escape and what ends up killing him is not being able to swim.
Posted by Thracken13
Aft Cargo Hold of Serenity
Member since Feb 2010
18841 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 5:21 pm to
I just got caught up today - and man, this series is so good
Posted by MRF
Member since Dec 2021
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Posted on 11/11/22 at 6:52 pm to
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He's on the same trail as the ISD, but isn't aware of their plans. He's going to do what HE thinks is the right thing, and screw up their sting.


I could see this, and then when he is punished for it he could be set on the path to being a rebel in season 2.
Posted by VL Lsutiger
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
3398 posts
Posted on 11/11/22 at 9:20 pm to
What a show top notch acting and writing
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130142 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:34 am to
Phenomenal show.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34162 posts
Posted on 11/12/22 at 9:38 am to
God damn I guess I need to start this series over. Never could get past the first 2 episodes because of the pacing but everyone on here is making me want to try again
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 11/12/22 at 8:27 pm to
Consider the first 3 just 1 episode. 3 has a more traditional star wars shootout and really sets up what the entire series is going to be about.
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 11:55 am to
I honestly didn't enjoy it til like episode 5, may have liked 4 a little better but goodness did it get great after that
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