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Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:04 pm to jlovel7
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I get people don’t like Baldwin but I don’t see how this rises to anything other than an accident.
Yeah, on the one hand I don't see how this is a criminal thing at all. It was clearly an accident caused by several different parties. Baldwin probably not even the main one.
On the other hand, Alec Baldwin is pretty much universally regarded of as one of the biggest assholes in the world, so I don't really mind at all bad things happening to him, whatever the circumstances.
It's a lot like the Britney Greiner situation. Bad things happening to bad people is hard to care about.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:14 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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One big difference between this and the Brandon Lee incident is the fact that they were filming a scene where weapons are pointed at Brandon and fired. In Baldwin's case, they weren't filming anything. He pointed the gun at the cinematographer and pulled the trigger.
Ahh, ok. Thats a huge difference. It isnt anything like the Brandon Lee shooting if thats the case. I assumed Baldwin pulled the trigger while in scene and it fired a bullet that hit someone off camera.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:26 pm to TTownTiger
Also, Baldwin was in a position of responsibility for making sure things were done properly. He wasn’t a stuntman or just an actor.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:31 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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When you deliberately point a loaded weapon at someone, and then pull the trigger on purpose, there should be legal consequences when your actions result in a person's death.
indeed. i am sure there are protocols and requirements in place. A check should be done to see if a weapon is loaded at all stages of hand off. if this didn't happen, the appropriate charges should be sought.
in this case it would not be murder. i think manslaughter would be what they should be seeking. This is dependent if said rules and regulations are indeed in place. im curious what legal requirement California has for said handling of onset firearms. if it is solely the responsibility of the armorer and their department then they wouldnt have any grounds to charge Baldwin.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:34 pm to WPBTiger
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Alex Baldwin likely to face charges in shooting death of cinematographer Halyna Hutchins
What about Alec Baldwin? Will he be facing any charges?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:34 pm to OysterPoBoy
actually as a producer you hire people that are qualified to do their job according to industry safety standards.
The first AD and Armorer are more to blame ... The first AD runs the set including instructing the armorer to check the weapon in his presence. It's not the actor's responsibility to clear a weapon.
Now if Baldwin was pointing and pulling a trigger between takes ..... that certainly complicates matters.
The first AD and Armorer are more to blame ... The first AD runs the set including instructing the armorer to check the weapon in his presence. It's not the actor's responsibility to clear a weapon.
Now if Baldwin was pointing and pulling a trigger between takes ..... that certainly complicates matters.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:35 pm to CabtainStabbin
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On the other hand, Alex Baldwin is pretty much universally regarded of as one of the biggest assholes in the world, so I don't really mind at all bad things happening to him, whatever the circumstances.
this is a pretty shitty way to look at it. its a pretty slippery slope when we start "being ok" with charging people for things just because we dont like them, not on actual legal grounds.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:38 pm to Scruffy
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All anyone has ever said is that any other American, who wasn’t a celebrity, would have been charged with something and would likely face jail time.
I don’t Think that’s true.
It’s a pretty specific circumstance here.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:45 pm to SammyTiger
it's absolutely not true ...
that a-hole director John Landis didn't go to jail for his actions on the Twilight Zone
and the director from the movie that ignored the orders to not shoot on train tracks went in just for a year .....
this was an accident caused by systematic safety failures on a set. He will pay other ways.
that a-hole director John Landis didn't go to jail for his actions on the Twilight Zone
and the director from the movie that ignored the orders to not shoot on train tracks went in just for a year .....
this was an accident caused by systematic safety failures on a set. He will pay other ways.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:52 pm to Bonkers119
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But hood rats murder people everyday and get off with a liberal judge. What a joke.
fixed it for you
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:58 pm to CabtainStabbin
quote:we do not send people to prison for being an a-hole. I hope not, anyway. Otherwise, I am in real trouble.
Yeah, on the one hand I don't see how this is a criminal thing at all. It was clearly an accident caused by several different parties. Baldwin probably not even the main one.
On the other hand, Alec Baldwin is pretty much universally regarded of as one of the biggest assholes in the world, so I don't really mind at all bad things happening to him, whatever the circumstances.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 2:59 pm to TTownTiger
quote:He was rehearsing a scene in which he fires in the direction of the camera. The victim was seated some distance behind the camera.
Thats a huge difference. It isnt anything like the Brandon Lee shooting if thats the case. I assumed Baldwin pulled the trigger while in scene and it fired a bullet that hit someone off camera.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 3:55 pm to CocomoLSU
Depends on how the state defines murder. New Mexico:
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Universal Citation: NM Stat § 30-2-1 (2019)
A. Murder in the first degree is the killing of one human being by another without lawful justification or excuse, by any of the means with which death may be caused:
(1) by any kind of willful, deliberate and premeditated killing;
(2) in the commission of or attempt to commit any felony; or
(3) by any act greatly dangerous to the lives of others, indicating a depraved mind regardless of human life.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:13 pm to rebelrouser
Wasn’t willful
Wasn’t during a felony
I dont Think think shows a deprived mind regardless of human life (insane wording for a murder statute but I assume their case law cleans this up)
Manslaughter is the charge I think They could make but it’s again a weird situation.
Wasn’t during a felony
I dont Think think shows a deprived mind regardless of human life (insane wording for a murder statute but I assume their case law cleans this up)
Manslaughter is the charge I think They could make but it’s again a weird situation.
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:42 pm to Saint Alfonzo
quote:He didn't do that. You know that. He deliberately pointed a gun that he thought was a prop. No one in their right mind thinks that he intentionally shot anyone.
When you deliberately point a loaded weapon at someone, and then pull the trigger on purpose, there should be legal consequences when your actions result in a person's death.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:50 pm to jlovel7
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I get people don’t like Baldwin but I don’t see how this rises to anything other than an accident.
Well there is a thing called criminal negligence.
But just like John Landis, he'll get off.
As is happening this will all settle in Civil Court.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 4:50 pm to Fewer Kilometers
There is a movement in Hollywood for less guns to be used in productions. If Baldwin faces any serious charges in this you can expect more actors to sign on.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:05 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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He didn't do that. You know that. He deliberately pointed a gun that he thought was a prop. No one in their right mind thinks that he intentionally shot anyone.
I didn't say he intentionally shot her. I said he deliberately pointed a loaded weapon at her and pulled the trigger. These are the facts, as I heard them, from someone who knew her and worked with her on multiple projects. This information was passed on to me the day they were headed to Halyna's memorial service. They also know crew members that were on the set that day. Alec intentionally aimed the weapon at her and squeezed the trigger.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 5:09 pm to jlovel7
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I get people don’t like Baldwin but I don’t see how this rises to anything other than an accident
Manslaughter.
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