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Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:39 pm to Bonkers119
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But Cops murder people everyday and get put on Paid Leave. What a joke.
It is extraordinarily rare to be killed by a police officer.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 7:54 pm to Scruffy
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anyone has ever said is that any other American, who wasn’t a celebrity, would have been charged with something and would likely face jail time
How much jail time did Michael Massee face?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:28 pm to kywildcatfanone
Its kinda interesting watching a doctor in Scruffy soap boxing how Baldwin needs to be treated like everyone else due to being responsible for the death of another. Because doctors surely have their own set of rules and laws completely different that others when it comes to killing people
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:32 pm to lsupride87
quote:The Vanderbilt nurse was convicted for doing the medical version of this and was charged appropriately.
Its kinda interesting watching a doctor in Scruffy soap boxing how Baldwin needs to be treated like everyone else due to being responsible for the death of another. Because doctors surely have their own set of rules and laws completely different that others when it comes to killing people
She gave the wrong drug and killed a patient.
Can you give an example of a medical case where I said that someone shouldn’t be charged?
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:33 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:38 pm to Scruffy
quote:And it was a huge deal because of just how rare it is for someone in medicine to be held accountable. And she was GROSSLY negligent. And to be quite honest some of Vandys controls were horrible too and the only reason the nurse saw justice was because they threw her under the bus late. She was completely getting off free of any charges until Vandy turned her over as a peace offering
The Vanderbilt nurse was convicted for doing the medical version of this and was charged appropriately. She gave the wrong drug and killed a patient.
I’m not saying you agree with how doctors are treated, but that standard of negligence is absolutely treated different than “normal” people
This post was edited on 9/26/22 at 8:40 pm
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:41 pm to JW
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It's not the actor's responsibility to clear a weapon.
It's ALWAYS the person holding the gun's responsibility for the safe handling of the weapon.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 8:44 pm to JW
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- it is NOT the Actor's responsibility to physically clear a weapon. That is a liability issue in its own right ... this is done in front of the actor and 1st AD by a trained, licensed armorer when using real guns.
So, if the armorer doesn't do this in front of the actor, wouldn't you then say the actor would be negligent to take the gun anyway, point it at someone, and pull the trigger?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 10:40 pm to lsupride87
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I’m not saying you agree with how doctors are treated, but that standard of negligence is absolutely treated different than “normal” people
Are you equating a doctors duty to try to save lives with an actors duty?
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:40 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
Have you seen lsupride's debate skills on the MSB?
Since we're all speculating, I'll throw in something that I haven't noticed anyone mention yet.
If the prosecutor is looking at 4 people, and requesting cellphone records, I'll speculate that they're also looking into whether Baldwin and others were forthcoming with the initial investigators or attempted to obstruct in any way.
Since we're all speculating, I'll throw in something that I haven't noticed anyone mention yet.
If the prosecutor is looking at 4 people, and requesting cellphone records, I'll speculate that they're also looking into whether Baldwin and others were forthcoming with the initial investigators or attempted to obstruct in any way.
Posted on 9/26/22 at 11:57 pm to TigerIron
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So, if the armorer doesn't do this in front of the actor, wouldn't you then say the actor would be negligent to take the gun anyway, point it at someone, and pull the trigger?
Sure but there is a difference between negligence and manslaughter.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 10:41 am to stout
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Well, California doesn't have jurisdiction in New Mexico where this happened so...
fine, you got my point dickhead.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:08 am to Scruffy
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It’s a pretty specific circumstance here.
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Man faces prison in accidental shooting death of daughter, 9
LINK
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Man brought gun to 2014 shooting, faces jail
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I can keep going if you want.
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Pensacola man faces prison time for accidental deadly shooting
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And I’m not saying he needs jail time, but he should be charged with a crime like anyone else would be.
Even that FBI agent who lost his gun while dancing, shooting someone, was charged with assault.
Your links are of no use to me, Scruffy. Hank has already sold me with his self-deprecating defense that it's just a witch hunt on Baldwin for being an a-hole.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:21 am to PowerTool
An actor throws another actor off a building as part of the movie script. The crew forget to put the airbag out properly for him to land on and the actor dies
I would think everyone in support of Baldwin facing charges would also support the actor above being charged correct? I mean he is the one who pushed the actor killing them. Should have personally checked to make sure it was all setup properly
I mean if I pushed someone off a building I would be charged so why should an actor be treated differently
I would think everyone in support of Baldwin facing charges would also support the actor above being charged correct? I mean he is the one who pushed the actor killing them. Should have personally checked to make sure it was all setup properly
I mean if I pushed someone off a building I would be charged so why should an actor be treated differently
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 11:25 am
Posted on 9/27/22 at 11:37 am to lsupride87
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An actor throws another actor off a building as part of the movie script. The crew forget to put the airbag out properly for him to land on and the actor dies
That would never happen.
Posted on 9/27/22 at 12:09 pm to Philzilla2k
quote:Im pretty sure actors have been injured extrmely bad, and even died, in stunts before. Why isn’t the actor who threw them off responsible?
That would never happen.
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Filming Kennedy's character's death, Bakunas successfully completed the jump, but the airbag beneath him ruptured, causing him critical injuries. He was taken to hospital, where he died the following day aged 27.
Just one example of the air bag failing resulting in a death
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Jack Tyree died in 1981 while filming "The Sword and the Sorcerer." While performing an 80-foot fall, Tyree missed the airbag below and died on impact.
Another one. So if those stunts would have involved another actor pushing them, should they be charged just like a regular Joe would be?
Or does being an actor where you count on prop safeguards make it unique?
This post was edited on 9/27/22 at 12:14 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:47 pm to The Ramp
Doesn’t change the fact that cops also murder people all the time
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:52 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
Everyone hates people who defend murderers too. You don’t have to be a liberal to admit that cops have killed lots of innocent people (and pets) for no reason.
Posted on 9/29/22 at 5:52 pm to imjustafatkid
And when it does happen the cop rarely goes to jail
Posted on 9/29/22 at 7:22 pm to lsupride87
I guess something was lost in translation. Those aren’t actors, they are stuntmen, stunts often go wrong, but an untrained actor will not perform potentially deadly stunts, ever.
Production insurance prohibits it.
Production insurance prohibits it.
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