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re: 22 Years after the release of American History X- how do you feel about it ?
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:32 am to rebelrouser
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:32 am to rebelrouser
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is shot by a black student (whose brother was killed by Derek
Have I missed picking this up the whole time? It's been a while since I've watched the entire film, but I never made the connection.
I guess it makes more sense concerning the hostility. I always took it as one kid being the skinhead a-hole and the other being the gangbanger a-hole as to why they didn't like each other.
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:37 am to Lsupimp
Spoiler Warning: I never saw it.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 7:43 am to arcalades
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completely misses the entire point of the movie
No I didn't. I am extremely complimentary to the film in this thread and in other places. Most folks won't touch racism/white supremacy in anything other than purely clichéd terms. This film bravely (and expertly) used it as a means to tell a compelling story.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 8:22 am to LasVegasTiger
In the beginning of the basketball scene, the teams are integrated.
Man, they were so close to getting along.
Man, they were so close to getting along.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 9:55 am to Samson
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I also didn't buy the notion that Danny would be afraid of Sweeney's threats.
I don't think Danny was afraid of Sweeney. I believe Danny honestly respected Sweeney, despite the fact that he was black and everything he was supposed to hate.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:23 am to boxcarbarney
Yeah,I think Derrick and Danny both actually admired Sweeney the whole time, they were both just denying the aforementioned better angels and succumbing to the dark side.They both had a sense that he was right and they were wrong the whole time. He was the conscious of the film throughout.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:33 am to Lsupimp
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Yeah,I think Derrick and Danny both actually admired Sweeney the whole time
I read an article years back about how white supremacists constantly make concessions for people they like. It delved into prison culture especially. "Man I fricking hate those Mexicans. Except Julio. He's cool. But frick the rest of them."
The movie showed a little of this when one of the Nazi prisoners was buying drugs off of (I believe) a Hispanic. Which is what set Derrick off.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:34 am to TigrrrDad
Re-watched the movie thanks to this thread and that curb stomp scene gets harder and harder for me to watch every time.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:36 am to Lsupimp
A “good” film, but I thought it was overrated at release and is still.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 10:37 am to boxcarbarney
quote:he absolutely did. heres the scene where he outright admitted that he did, only to have his father immediately start pushing his bullshite
I believe Danny honestly respected Sweeney
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Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:06 am to AggieHank86
It gets an A+ on the PT.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:12 am to Ace Midnight
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Only thing that really hold the film back at all
The film about nazis should’ve had less racial stuff in it?
Seems like a boring movie in that case
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:29 am to wildtigercat93
This movie is terrible. If you are friends with people who like it, stop being friends with them. Ed norton dunking a basketball is a crime against humanity. The overall message of the movie was totally ambigous. Just do horrible stuff young and work it out later and your still ok was the message.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 11:29 am to WestCoastAg
The problem that people have with NUANCE is illustrated through the character of the father. There is this GIGANTIC space that the vast majority of Americans inhabit between "America should control our borders" and "Kill the Mexicans". There is a GIGANTIC space that the vast majority of Americans inhabit between "people should be hired based on merit" and "kill the black people". That normal space is usually ignored in film and television in favor of a more sensationalistic and simplistic dumbing-down of these views and issues. The more gray area they show, the more nuance they have. The more the argument exists on the extreme margins, the less nuance we have.
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:16 pm to Lsupimp
which is why the film taking the time to flesh out these people and their reasons shows incredible nuance and understanding
Posted on 3/23/20 at 12:25 pm to Lsupimp
Posted on 3/24/20 at 12:50 am to Lsupimp
Should be shown to high school sophomores as required curriculum.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 2:58 am to WestCoastAg
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took the central theme more as: violence brings about violence
I thought that was pretty much the whole movie and everything else was just backdrop.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 6:27 am to Rou Leed
If “works out ok” means “younger brother gets shot dead in a school bathroom” than sure.
Posted on 3/24/20 at 8:07 am to Lsupimp
Here's a question that maybe some of you who loved this film can answer. What makes a movie like this appealing? What is the attraction to it? More generally, why are you people drawn to the race film genre?
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