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Wow, Emmert taking a beating as a stumbling, bumbling NCAA Pres

Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:11 am
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:11 am
His tenure is marked by incompetence, lack of credibility and arrogance. The NCAA is under attack and "the bleeding only seems to get worse the longer their current president keeps doing the fighting," ....

He'll be out of a job soon!
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
2755 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:12 am to
Lol "U"
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:19 am to
Mike n Mike were destroying him this morning. Great point though, he cant take a "I didnt know" approach when he is handing out punishments to head coaches and telling them "they should know about everything". Looks like the Atmosphere of Compliance is catching up with the NCAA. The irony is fabulous actually.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29390 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:25 am to
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His tenure is marked by incompetence, lack of credibility and arrogance.

Same can be said of his tenure as LSU chancellor.
Posted by BillyBobfan24_7
R.I.P. SGT Nelson
Member since May 2004
18065 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:28 am to
What did he say "I don't know" about? I guess I have missed this story since I can't stand Mike n Mike.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:35 am to
The investigators botched the Miami investigation bigtime. They paid the Shapiro guys' attorney (who was representing him in a bankruptcy) to give them info that they were not allowed to ask for themselves, etc. All kinds of unethical shite....

Shapiro is the big Miami booster who was paying kids, and he's now in jail.
Posted by SouthOfSouth
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
43456 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:42 am to
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What did he say "I don't know" about? I guess I have missed this story since I can't stand Mike n Mike.


About the tactics of the Miami investigation, which are coming out as not very "ethical"
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
22817 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 7:45 am to
I'm in agreement. The NCAA is a joke right now. He probably should go down for what happened.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96014 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:07 am to
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His tenure is marked by incompetence, lack of credibility and arrogance.



Same can be said of his tenure as LSU chancellor.


what are some examples while he was at lsu. i thought most agreed he did a great job here.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14966 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:11 am to
It came to light that the NCAA actually bought Shapiro a "burner phone" so as to have some discussions with him totally off-the-record and untraceable.

The payments they made to others-if they would've been under $15K-would've never seen the light of day. They were knowingly paying people involved with the criminal aspect of the Shapiro Investigation in exchange for information they could use in their ongoing investigation.

Most importantly, the NCAA's #2 person-who reports directly to Emmert-was approving payments and could easily be construed to have knowledge of what was going on. Emmert's astoundingly set up the organizational tree there so that only two people directly report to him. Which is almost too fantastic to be believed.

He's tarnished his career in a very, very big way with all of this.
Posted by andouille
A table near a waiter.
Member since Dec 2004
10708 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:14 am to
Nickie's lap dog has blown the pooch. I thought he was doing somewhat OK until the Penn St sanctions were handed down. The NCAA had no business getting involved, as bad as it was, it did not break their bylaws. You can't make up the rules as you go along.

I think the State of Pennsylvania's lawsuit against the NCAA will be successful. It was a criminal matter, the criminals were punished, or will be.
Posted by Camp Randall
The Shadow of the Valley of Death
Member since Nov 2005
15593 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:18 am to
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Same can be said of his tenure as LSU chancellor.


I hope you are joking.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20449 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:20 am to
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Same can be said of his tenure as LSU chancellor.


What did he do wrong when he was here?
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7077 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 8:31 am to
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I'm in agreement. The NCAA is a joke right now. He probably should go down for what happened.


+1- Old Emmert has bitten off more than he can chew on this one. He will have to resign to allow the NCAA to clear this and start over.
Posted by sportsaddit68
Hammond
Member since Sep 2008
5846 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:02 am to
I disagree. I think with the firing of the main one involved, and if he removes his VP, he can overcome this. He was a GREAT chancellor here, started our flagship programs that raised LSU's entrance requirements, the universities Math scores and other departments increased. We were rising greatly by ranking in your big time charts (U.S. News, Princeton Review, etc.) LSU continued that rise every year until budget cuts (fire Javi) all but destoryed everything he did. He won't his job, until after the NCAA loses in court to Penn.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43143 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:33 am to
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it did not break their bylaws
Really? What about the atmosphere of compliance and/or lack of institutional control?

I think the NCAA was absolutely right to get involved and punish that university. I dont know the merits of the investigation etc so maybe something there but PSU certainly violated bylaws.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
9114 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 9:47 am to
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I'm in agreement. The NCAA is a joke right now. He probably should go down for what happened


Incorrect. The NCAA has been a joke for the vast majority of its existence. They've railroaded a lot more schools than just Penn State and Miami over the years.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110887 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:04 am to
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he cant take a "I didnt know" approach when he is handing out punishments to head coaches and telling them "they should know about everything".


Yep.

I heard on his watch, he started this rule or whatever that head coaches can be held responsible for any recruiting missteps by their assistant coaches.

So yea, it's hypocritical to have an investigation of this magnitude completely botched and him shy away from responsibility.

The NCAA is a horrible, horrible organization.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110887 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:05 am to
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think the NCAA was absolutely right to get involved and punish that university
Agreed.

But the problem is that the punishment violated the NCAA's boundaries, if I recall correctly.
Posted by ClaudioVegas05
Portland, OR
Member since Feb 2006
1611 posts
Posted on 2/19/13 at 10:07 am to
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