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re: Woj: Silver Exploring "Nuclear" Option on Sterling

Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:56 am to
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:56 am to
Cubans a smart man.been my argument from beginning of this. Always defend opinions..even stupid ones. Eventually an opinion of yours will be targeted. Educate Ignorant views is much more effective then quick unfair punishment. will just make people firmer on their views
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:56 am to
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Or things that adversely affect the other owners/league(broad language)


The Grammar Police have determined that you are in compliance.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 9:57 am
Posted by corndeaux
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:57 am to
From David Roth

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It's strange and a little upsetting to see how Sterling sounding like a bigot is being punished so much more and so much more quickly than him actively being a bigot.


LINK
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:57 am to
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the general public gets a pass. NBA fans...do not


Coming from a pretty diehard NBA fan, I knew nothing about Sterling before this came out. Most of us aren't paying attention to alleged racial tendencies halfway across the country. Like I've said, this is the "smoking gun" that allowed the public to crucify him instead of speculating.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:58 am to
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So you're telling me that Chris Paul's choices were limited in where he could play? Think about that.


There are a finite amount of teams. Of those, only a few have a legitimate shot to win a title. A player of CP3's caliber made his decision to play in LA based upon what team he thought would give him the best shot at winning a championship. Those are the more immediate issues at play.

That in no way means he cannot express his displeasure at his owner's continued foibles.

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Except for the part where one is a slave and had zero choice and the slave owner fed them and gave them food so they could continue to be slaves and do the things the owner needed them to do compared to freely choosing to sign a contract with 1 team when 25 more would gladly take you


The analogy is that just because one is compensated and cared for, does not mean that the worker must needs appreciate the druthers of those in charge of the work environment.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:58 am to
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It's funny because I think based on everything, not just this 1 event, the NBA and even the owners should absolutely not want this dude owning a team, but if I'm an owner, there's no way i'm voting to remove another owner. Can't set that precdent, I'd much rather try to put pressure to force him to make the decision to sell.


Not to mention the fact that the NBA is not exempt from antitrust laws like MLB. Sterling will tie them up in court for years and would likely create new law that would not be beneficial to the NBA. The NBA can rattle their sabers all they want, but in the end it is probably prudent to fine and suspend him and leave it at that.
Posted by corndeaux
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:59 am to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:59 am to
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You've been on this board posting about this for 24hrs straight


I've been on many boards posting about many things in the past 24 hours, not just this issue.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 9:59 am to
sterling is a weird guy

hired the first black GM in history (who sucked, but still was GM for like 20+ years). hired a slew of black head coaches, even back when it was a an unwritten "no no" rule. i mean his FIRST coach was black

and for everyone who is saying "people in the NBA circle didn't know" re: his reputation, when baylor (who sucked) was finally fired and filed that racial discrimination suit against sterling, the running joke was that the only shot in hell he had to win was b/c of sterling's reputation (and we'd have to ignore 20 years of fricking sucking at your job)
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:00 am to
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It's strange and a little upsetting to see how Sterling sounding like a bigot is being punished so much more and so much more quickly than him actively being a bigot.
Yea, that's a great point.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:00 am to
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David Roth


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:00 am to
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Yea, that's a great point.

Kareem and Bomani Jones were screaming a similar point yesterday
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:02 am to
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A player of CP3's caliber made his decision to play in LA based upon what team he thought would give him the best shot at winning a championship. Those are the more immediate issues at play
So right now, in the midst of the playoffs, winning a championship needs isn't priority 1, it shifts to the moral compass of the owner. Inconsistent, man.

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That in no way means he cannot express his displeasure at his owner's continued foibles
He can, but he chose to go to that owner, when he could have gone elsewhere.

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The analogy is that just because one is compensated and cared for, does not mean that the worker must needs appreciate the druthers of those in charge of the work environment
Analogy doesn't apply when 1 literally has no choice and the other literally has teams begging for his services, that's where it fails.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:06 am to
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So right now, in the midst of the playoffs, winning a championship needs isn't priority 1, it shifts to the moral compass of the owner. Inconsistent, man.


Inconsistent how? The uproar this has caused is obviously affecting their work environment. For that reason alone, they have a right to be peeved. Racism is the icing on the cake.

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he chose to go to that owner, when he could have gone elsewhere.


Still does not mean that he can't express displeasure with said owner.

Look, we're obviously at an impasse here. I'm cool to agree to disagree No one's mind is going to change, and the discussion has gone as far as it will on this particular point.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
62896 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:06 am to
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it's been manufactured into a big deal. a guy with racist tendencies saying something about his half-black whore being seen out with black people (while she could still frick them, per him, mind you)...not a big deal



I agree with what you are saying...but I modified your statement to even further your point. She was his public trophy...someone he paraded around. The image thing is central to her value to him.

Meanwhile, I haven't seen anything that indicated that he has discriminated against anyone in the Clipper organization...or created a hostile workplace due to his overt racism. And, even if he had, that's that where the outrage is coming from.

This is manufactured in large part by attacking an easy target (a rich racist POS).
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103839 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:06 am to
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Mark Cuban has already come out and said he's likely to oppose any such action because of the precedent it sets.


Looks like one of those rare times where I agree with Mark Cuban.

Sterling's an a-hole who really shouldn't own a team, but stripping him of the team or destroying the roster in an attempt to force him to sell is a horrible precedent.


Making him do some form of very public penance, such as large fines, suspensions / bans from NBA activities / games, etc., should be on the table.

Hell, I think that Clippers pre-game festivities should probably involve him being in stocks with rotten produce thrown at him.


Stripping him of the team, though? That's a really bad road to go down.

The league bought the Hornets because Shinn was insolvent and they were able to pressure the Maloofs into sell the Kings for pretty much the same reason. Sterling doesn't fall into that category no matter how miserable a person he is.
Posted by LSUneaux
Metairie and MAGA AF
Member since Mar 2014
4957 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:07 am to
Can the final computation of this mess involve Seattle getting a team? Maybe an all-black team. NO WHITES.
This post was edited on 4/29/14 at 10:08 am
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103839 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:09 am to
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Meanwhile, I haven't seen anything that indicated that he has discriminated against anyone in the Clipper organization...or created a hostile workplace due to his overt racism. And, even if he had, that's that where the outrage is coming from


There was a bunch of stuff in the Elgin Baylor discrimination lawsuit which would qualify for a hostile work environment.

My personal favorites would be parading his girlfriends through the Clippers' locker room to "look at the beautiful black bodies" and lowballing Danny Manning on a contract because "that's a lot of money for a poor black kid."


That's not to say it is currently happening, but it has happened in the past.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476098 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:10 am to
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The image thing is central to her value to him

which is gross b/c she looked like a 50 year old plastic surgery victim in her 20s or whatever

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I haven't seen anything that indicated that he has discriminated against anyone in the Clipper organization...or created a hostile workplace due to his overt racism. And, even if he had, that's that where the outrage is coming from.

well there is the story about him taking another gf to the team shower so they could stand in aw of the black, naked bodies
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 4/29/14 at 10:10 am to
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It is a big deal. Just because he's done other things in the past many would deem worse than this that went unpunished doesn't mean this isn't a big deal.

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