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re: Will John Curtis ever stop running the Veer?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:15 pm to nicholastiger
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:15 pm to nicholastiger
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It's also the reason their kids struggle when they get to college when that's all they know how to do. WR's want to be featured, QB's need to throw the ball in this day and age.
Not really. What they do is they recruit promising athletes from the surrounding area and make them repeat grades.
They will take an 8th grader and place him in 7th at JC. By the time the kid is a senior, he is the maximum age/maturity allowed to play high school sports.
Most flame out in college because they have already athletically matured.
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Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:30 pm to The Boat
06 Redemptorist grad was a glorious night.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:41 pm to nicholastiger
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It's also the reason their kids struggle when they get to college when that's all they know how to do. WR's want to be featured, QB's need to throw the ball in this day and age.
Curtis hasn’t exactly had a bunch of kids with the ability to be good college QB’s or WR’s. Their best players typically play RB or are on defense.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 12:57 pm to NamariTiger
They have produced many college linemen as well.
They are not going to change a 45-year offense for a handful of skill players, especially when they have 27 state titles running the veer.
They are not going to change a 45-year offense for a handful of skill players, especially when they have 27 state titles running the veer.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:37 pm to NamariTiger
Running the option shortens the game.
It is lethal IF execution is crisp.
Of course, it’s harder to mount a comeback.
It can lead to fumbles IF execution is poor.
Option football sort of went away when defensive edge players became total freaks of nature.
It still can work. Army hung with Oklahoma last year. All the way to OT.
It is lethal IF execution is crisp.
Of course, it’s harder to mount a comeback.
It can lead to fumbles IF execution is poor.
Option football sort of went away when defensive edge players became total freaks of nature.
It still can work. Army hung with Oklahoma last year. All the way to OT.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:39 pm to ruzil
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They will take an 8th grader and place him in 7th at JC. By the time the kid is a senior, he is the maximum age/maturity allowed to play high school sports.
Don’t think they really do this any more
Posted on 8/12/19 at 1:52 pm to NamariTiger
I had a friend who transferred from curtis to rummel when I was in hs.
He told me sports is the entire focus at that school and that JT will do anything to win.
He told me sports is the entire focus at that school and that JT will do anything to win.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:01 pm to SaintNation
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Dude has cheated recruiting top talent to play much inferior teams in inferior divisions his entire career.
Small school,but when they moved up in class, they still routinely kicked arse.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:36 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:Coach isn't getting paid for what a kid does two teams down the road.
There needs to be a balance between short-term success and long-term growth.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 2:54 pm to JS87
quote:It really is a football factory. And I don’t see the point of spending 8k a year for a below average education.
He told me sports is the entire focus at that school and that JT will do anything to win.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 3:55 pm to NamariTiger
When you get the biggest best players you can run anything you wish and be successful.
He has a great system in place from junior high on up that is just as good as the recruiting aspect. He has it down to a science.
Still, it has been rougher sledding the last few years since teams have become better all around offensively and defensively.
There isb a reason it isn't ran in college and Pros anymore to any long term success ie MNC. Thinkaboitit.
He has a great system in place from junior high on up that is just as good as the recruiting aspect. He has it down to a science.
Still, it has been rougher sledding the last few years since teams have become better all around offensively and defensively.
There isb a reason it isn't ran in college and Pros anymore to any long term success ie MNC. Thinkaboitit.
This post was edited on 8/12/19 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:33 pm to NamariTiger
Curtis is the ultimate "system"
1) Start teaching kids in middle school
2) Holdbacks when necessary
3) 90% or more of the male students play
The result is a system that the kids known perfect when they get to HS. It's run effective and efficent. Even though they are a 2A or whatever enrollment, their teams have the roster numbers equal to a 4A or a 5A program.
Because of this, I think the veer was only the 2nd biggest reason for their success. The first was their roster size, compared to their opponents. When your depth is 3X the teams you are playing against, you can dominate them.
It took them 4 years to win a state champ in Div 1, because they no longer had that depth advantage.
I don't see the system changing anytime soon. Even when JT retires, there's enough of his disciples (see what I did there) to keep it going.
And just like Spurrier at Florida, system coaches don't end to produce great players at the next level. For all of JT's championships, his players (with a few exceptions) are very lightly recruited at the Power 5 Level, and rarely, if ever, make it to the NFL.
1) Start teaching kids in middle school
2) Holdbacks when necessary
3) 90% or more of the male students play
The result is a system that the kids known perfect when they get to HS. It's run effective and efficent. Even though they are a 2A or whatever enrollment, their teams have the roster numbers equal to a 4A or a 5A program.
Because of this, I think the veer was only the 2nd biggest reason for their success. The first was their roster size, compared to their opponents. When your depth is 3X the teams you are playing against, you can dominate them.
It took them 4 years to win a state champ in Div 1, because they no longer had that depth advantage.
I don't see the system changing anytime soon. Even when JT retires, there's enough of his disciples (see what I did there) to keep it going.
And just like Spurrier at Florida, system coaches don't end to produce great players at the next level. For all of JT's championships, his players (with a few exceptions) are very lightly recruited at the Power 5 Level, and rarely, if ever, make it to the NFL.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:34 pm to tokenBoiler
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Coach isn't getting paid for what a kid does two teams down the road.
Hence the problem with high school athletics.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:38 pm to SaintNation
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to play much inferior teams in inferior divisions his entire career.
Even when they won state in 5A?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 4:39 pm to GeeOH
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he put a strick program
Showing off that quality Curtis education.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:10 pm to OweO
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Even when they won state in 5A?
You mean Div I
Posted on 8/12/19 at 5:19 pm to GynoSandberg
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You mean Div I
Finally at that.
I think Rummel beats them this season myself. Rummel is going to be very very good and with the QB transfer from Jesuit they should be clicking on all cylinders.
Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:13 pm to 187undercover
What’s be story on the QB transfer?
Posted on 8/12/19 at 6:25 pm to LSUFanHouston
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. For all of JT's championships, his players (with a few exceptions) are very lightly recruited at the Power 5 Level, and rarely, if ever, make it to the NFL.
That’s an insanely inaccurate take lol
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