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re: Why is the Bayou Classic televised on NBC?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:25 am to Zach
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:25 am to Zach
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But even in their heyday black colleges had a huge problem with depth. IE, in a given year Grambling might have 3 guys in the starting lineup with NFL in their future. But at least 5 starters had no business playing football. And the second string was something you didn't want to talk about.
SEC schools had guys who knew they wouldn't see the field until they were juniors or seniors and they still knew the NFL would look at them. David Woodley of LSU is a good example.
Facilities were also a big issue in the decline of black college football. By the late 70s if a top black FB player visited the locker room at LSU and then the locker room at Grambling the recruiting war was over.
BTW, enjoy your posts. Happy Holidays to you and yours.
Thanks. I agree with pretty much everything you've said. I think the real heyday of HBCU football was probably from the mid-60's to early 70's. If Grambling had played LSU in those years, Las Vegas would have probably favored Grambling some of those years, if not most. Even in 1977, when Doug Williams became the first player from an HBCU to be selected AP first-team All-American and finshed fourth in the Heisman Trophy voting, the decline had already started.
Younger folks have a hard time comprehending this. Once in order to get the point across at a family gathering, I downloaded both the Grambling and LSU media guides on the computer, and went to the sections that listed pro draft picks. I then told the younger folks to compare the year-to-year draft picks for each school from the mid-60's to the mid-70's, and after doing so, they were left speechless. Up until then, they seemed to have the impression that older folks were just engaging in overhyped nostalgia when they talked about the good ole days of Black college football, but this got the point across. I also informed them that there was a time the Florida A&M would schedule the Miami to get an easy non-conference win, not the other way around like it is today.
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Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:26 am to RaginCajunsULL
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Obamacare
Ignorant
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:28 am to Skillet
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The Advocate gets totally ridiculous with their coverage of this game. I don't understand why anyone would try and make a meaningless game for teams with very little fan support like Southern & Grambling into some big spectacle that hardly anyone watches.
all the local media really gives Southern way too much coverage year round. Its probably a 60/40 split between LSU and Southern no matter if LSU is in the national title game and Southern is 3-8. I think they are afraid to be labelled racist.
and the advocate guy Joel Schiefelbien copied the raiders fans once and said Jaguar Nation and they act like he cured cancer
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:30 am to Ford Frenzy
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This abortion of a game needs to be on BET where it belongs
What's the point of this? Why does it belong on bet?
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:30 am to trackfan
older black people started following LSU football and dropping Jag season tickets because of LSU's rise to prominence and they're notorious bandwagon hoppers.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:34 am to BilJ
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older black people started following LSU football and dropping Jag season tickets because of LSU's rise to prominence and they're notorious bandwagon hoppers.
Or maybe a lot of those older black people became fans of lsu because their family members, players they coached in pop Warner, or friends kids chose to stay home and play for lsu. I don't think it's bandwagoning.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:42 am to BilJ
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older black people started following LSU football and dropping Jag season tickets because of LSU's rise to prominence and they're notorious bandwagon hoppers.
I hope you are very young, since that would at least explain your ignorance.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:43 am to BIGDAB
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Not true, I can speak from experience when I say that those two schools have alumni and students from all over the country. It's even bigger in the MEAC. It's not the best football, but it has alot of tradition behind it.
but it never has good ratings. if it were popular nationally, the ratings would show this
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This game gets more attention nationally, than any two other shitty teams in the state of La. could ever dream of getting.
this game won't get the publicity and ratings of LSU v. McNeese
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:44 am to H-Town Tiger
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NOLA was always split on LSU anyway.
nola is still split on LSU. it isn't a race thing, though. it's just a "nola being nola" thing
you REALLY see this with basketball
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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yeah FSU and Miami aren't totally white schools, especially Miami
LSU just had recruiting problems for a few coaches before dinardo. LSU got plenty of black athletes, but we had problems in Nola. that's a big reason why Marquise Hill is one of the most important recruits in LSU history. hell, we still have problems with Nola kids. those kids still go to "white" schools if they don't choose LSU though
You're talking about the 90's but I'm talking about the 70's when things were a lot different. As I said earlier, there was a time when Florida A&M scheduled Miami for an easy non-conference win.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:48 am to trackfan
Here's another question about HBCU. Why are all of their basketball teams so bad? They are always ranked at the bottom of the bottom.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:48 am to SlowFlowPro
Mississippi has 3 black colleges and in this day and age I don't see how they are all going to survive. A couple of years ago the state wanted to consolidate Alcorn and MVSU under the Jackson State system but that wasn't going to fly with some in the political system.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:49 am to H-Town Tiger
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H-Town Tiger
I'm glad to see that there are actually fans out with a clue & an understanding of what I brought up in this thread. You did an excellent job of breaking it down. I see there is intelligent life on the internet after all.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:50 am to trackfan
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You're talking about the 90's
he was talking about the 90s
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:50 am to SlowFlowPro
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nola is still split on LSU. it isn't a race thing, though. it's just a "nola being nola" thing
correct
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you REALLY see this with basketball
LSU getting Randy Livingston was even more shocking to me than getting Hill. Such a shame he got hurt.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:51 am to itawambadog
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Mississippi has 3 black colleges and in this day and age I don't see how they are all going to survive. A couple of years ago the state wanted to consolidate Alcorn and MVSU under the Jackson State system but that wasn't going to fly with some in the political system.
Louisiana tried to consolidate a school with a 5% 6 year grad rate that serves as little more than a Pell Grant scam and a place for black legislators to give their relatives high paying jobs. The uproar against shuttering it was insane.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:52 am to Zach
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Why are all of their basketball teams so bad?
basketball is a completely different animal than football. good players go to good schools the vast majority of the time
1AA teams don't stand a chance
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:53 am to trackfan
I am not going to call older SU fans bandwaggoners but LSU becoming a national power has greatly affected those who would normally support SU. Regardless of reason ex. family members deciding to go to LSU or just pay a little more money for a more quality game.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:55 am to SlowFlowPro
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he was talking about the 90s
Yes, I was talking about the 90s because it wasn't until the late 90s-early 2000's that the way of thinking I mentioned began to erode away.
Posted on 11/25/12 at 11:55 am to ProjectP2294
Then we have Mississippi University for Women. They accept men but won't change their name, has falling enrollment, and it's a half hour drive from MSU.
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