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Why is BJ Penn considered one of the greatest UFC lightweight fighters of all time?
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:39 pm
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:39 pm
His overall record isn’t that impressive at 16-14-2. He finished his UFC career with a 7 fight losing streak.
I get he was widely regarded as one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world but it seemed like as MMA evolved his style simply didn’t work anymore.
I get he was widely regarded as one of the best pound for pound fighters in the world but it seemed like as MMA evolved his style simply didn’t work anymore.
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Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:44 pm to Paul Allen
He was a prodigy. As he aged, the losses racked up. Mainly because he didn't care who he fought. "There's no weight classes in a bar, none in the real world." He would fight anyone, and due to that, he lost a lot to much bigger men.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 9:49 pm to Paul Allen
Because he had kinda a Rocky like aura about him that he was notorious for street fighting in Hawaii before the UFC. Also was considered a natural at the sub/ground game when the UFC was just taking off. It was also clear he had a lot of heart, never gave up and was always ready to throw down similar to Clay Guida and Diego Sanchez.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:06 pm to bcoop199
Seemed to me like he loved fighting but hated training. He didn't take care of his body and that probably caught up with him.
There was one behind the scenes UFC show that followed him during training, maybe for the second GSP fight. He just jogged around Hilo a little and did one workout where he swam down in the ocean and moved a rock. Moving the rock was tough but he only did it once.
There was one behind the scenes UFC show that followed him during training, maybe for the second GSP fight. He just jogged around Hilo a little and did one workout where he swam down in the ocean and moved a rock. Moving the rock was tough but he only did it once.
Posted on 8/20/26 at 10:54 pm to Diseasefreeforall
His rise was pretty meteoric. He was the first non-Brazilian to win the World Jiu-Jitsu Championship at black belt level which was a really big deal. He had major success in both the US & Japan in MMA.
Then he won both the UFC WW & LW titles. He’d fight any weight class but His issue was he never seemed to taking training serious. The running joke was always how great a “motivated BJ Penn” could be.
Then he won both the UFC WW & LW titles. He’d fight any weight class but His issue was he never seemed to taking training serious. The running joke was always how great a “motivated BJ Penn” could be.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:32 am to Paul Allen
and he never juiced, every one of these guys is on gear now.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:33 am to Paul Allen
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His overall record isn’t that impressive at 16-14-2. He finished his UFC career with a 7 fight losing streak.
You kind of explained your first sentence with your second. I think Dana White even said he let him fight one or two times more than he should have.
But that helps illustrate his reputation, good and bad. Rogan has said his peak was as good as anyone, so I'm sure he got some benefit of the doubt to keep fighting. But as others here have mentioned, his training was considered lackluster.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 3:55 am to nvasil1
First time I saw him was one of the matt Hughes fights. He hopped around on one leg the whole round while hughes tried to get him down
Incredible balance and dexterity
Incredible balance and dexterity
Posted on 8/21/26 at 6:02 am to bcoop199
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never gave up
UFC 94 would like a word with you.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 7:42 am to Paul Allen
I dont know shite about MMA, but, measuring their peak vs body of work is why he was considered one of the best.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:32 am to Paul Allen
UFC stopped having a 155 division for awhile during his prime, he had to fight up a weight class.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 9:46 am to Paul Allen
Hasn't he completely lost his mind now? Like thinks his family was replaced by body snatchers?
CTE ain't no joke.
CTE ain't no joke.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:12 am to Paul Allen
He became a basket case and surrounded himself with yes men throughout parts of his career, which resulted in him not evolving and taking fights he had no business in doing
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:14 am to CatfishJohn
Yes he doesn’t seem to remember who is mom or associates family are. Whatever drugs he abused plus cte caused this condition (I can’t remember it)
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:34 am to lsucoonass
Sad to hear that. I wasn’t aware of this.
Posted on 8/21/26 at 10:41 am to Paul Allen
His third fight with Matt Hughes should have been his retirement fight
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:01 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Earned his BJJ black belt in just 3 years, which was unheard of.
The quote I always most associate with him: “If you don’t feel like training, then don’t.”
The quote I always most associate with him: “If you don’t feel like training, then don’t.”
Posted on 8/21/26 at 12:23 pm to dupergreenie
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UFC 94 would like a word with you.
With all the fights being on Paramount now I've been going back and watching all the fights of the all time greats. Watched most of GSP fights a few weeks ago.
BJ Penn was supposedly in the best shape of his life for that fight and he got manhandled. Technically Penn's corner through in the towel, not Penn. I kind of agree with the "Penn never gave up" statement. He had some fun fights.
But man GSP was a freaking bad arse. That was a fun re-watch going through his fights.
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