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re: Who will be the number one pick in the MLB draft?

Posted on 7/5/23 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 4:37 pm to
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Why is this the case?


because he's really, really good at being an agent.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 4:53 pm to
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Who will be the number one pick in the MLB draft?



Posted by lsusa
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 4:54 pm to
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i thought drafting the best player is more valuable that more darts on fricktards that you'll never hear of again.


The MLB draft has been around since 1965. Three players in who have gone 1.1 have been elected to the Hall of Fame. (NFL has 10 since 1968, NBA is even more)

Unlike the NBA and NFL where a good number of guys who are picked 1.1 are instant starters and sometimes even stars, most MLB top picks are at least 2-3 years away.

Because of the nature of the spot and the gap between hs/college and the pros, the MLB draft is far more based on potential and projection than it is on past performance.

It’s not as simple as saying that a guy was “the most accomplished college pitcher” = “the best pro prospect”.

The MLB draft, unlike the NBA and NFL, will also have a significant number of guys who can using returning to or going to college as an option. That makes sign-ability and issue and strategy.



Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:01 pm to
They are but the draft isn’t relevant to that. If they take Langford for instance it’s so they can use that bonus money somewhere else. They are part of the reason why MLB changed the bonus rules because they were pretty aggressive about spending over it
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:03 pm to
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because he's really, really good at being an agent.


Do you think Dylan Crews gets paid more for not going #1?

It seems like a really, really good agent shouldn’t have a hard time getting the best player in the draft compensated what he’s worth
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:07 pm to
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The MLB draft has been around since 1965. Three players in who have gone 1.1 have been elected to the Hall of Fame. (NFL has 10 since 1968, NBA is even more)


NBA doesn't even have a hall of fame
Posted by Double Oh
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 5:49 pm to
How can you pass on a pitcher like Skenes? Once in a lifetime pitcher if you ask me.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 6:07 pm to
More than what the pirates are willing to offer
Posted by beaverfever
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 7:54 pm to
Is there no value to trading down or completely out of the first draft if you don’t want to spend the money on a top three pick?
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 8:06 pm to
You can’t trade picks
Posted by lsufan1971
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Posted on 7/5/23 at 11:12 pm to
It’s also different from the NFL in that everyone except college seniors are eligible to go back or go to college. The NFL contracts are pretty much set with each pick and teams usually don’t deviate much. MLB a player can get over his slot if the team wants to pay a premium on keeping te player out of college.

It’s happened too many times to count with LSU signees. Zach Lee was on campus registered for classes and in the bottom of the 9th signed with tge Dodgers for 5.25 million. He was the 28th pick in 2010. He got paid well over slot. Bryce Harper was the #1 pick that year and signed for 6.25 million.
This post was edited on 7/5/23 at 11:13 pm
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:39 am to
I will feel so bad for Pirates fans if the team is too cheap to take one of Skenes/Crews/Langford
Posted by WestlakeTiger
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:57 am to
My pirates buddy at work is absolutely disgusted with them at the moment knowing they aren't taking Crews
Posted by Tigerpride18
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:02 am to
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This!!!


OK!!!!!
Posted by Frogonmytoe
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 5:34 am to
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thought drafting the best player is more valuable that more darts on fricktards that you'll never hear of again.


Baseball is different. Just look at the Angels. Trout and Ohtani
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:18 am to
I saw a mock draft a week or two back that had Crews and Skenes going 1 and 2 respectively. Seems Langford has jumped in there with one of those 3 going 1st.

Of course, there could be some HS kid out there that I don't know of since I don't keep up with it on a national level, but the mocks have been more college-heavy compared to years past.
Posted by LSUtiger89
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 7:51 am to
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 8:55 am to
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More than what the pirates are willing to offer


I’ll admit I don’t fully understand how the assigned values work for the MLB draft, but I assume you think Pittsburgh would offer Crews less than $9M?

His really, really good agent is gonna prevent him from going #1 for what, an extra $500k?
Posted by BRUNNIN4
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:01 am to
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I’ll admit I don’t fully understand how the assigned values work for the MLB draft, but I assume you think Pittsburgh would offer Crews less than $9M?

His really, really good agent is gonna prevent him from going #1 for what, an extra $500k?

The slot values are nothing more than suggestions. A team picking later could offer him more money.
Posted by JimTiger72
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 9:06 am to
Well, what’s this narrative about Pittsburgh not wanting to pay Crews?

They drafted Termarr Johnson at #4 last year & he signed for $7,219,000 (the assigned value for #4 was $7,005,800).
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