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re: The Lakers disaster is LeBron's fault

Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:44 am to
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:44 am to
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Things were somewhat turning around right before Lebron came


That front office made nothing but mind-numbing moves post LeBron signing. Surrounding him with guys that can't shoot was asinine.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:48 am to
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Turns out, nobody wants to play with Lebron.


Not many personalities can live in/with his shadow/demands.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83583 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:48 am to
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He is a worse coach killer than D. Howard
List the coaches he killed and why it was a bad idea to kill them.
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Kyrie/Lebron on the Cavs this year still has a chance to win the whole thing if they had gone out and gotten some bench pieces.
Jesus, you haven’t seen enough from Kyrie to realize he’s the poison on teams and switches moods more often than a teenage girl?
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And add Walton after one season
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:50 am to
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The Lakers disaster is LeBron's fault by Stidham8


And yet, they were a 50 win team when LeBron was on the floor and a 30 win team when he was off of it.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95925 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:51 am to
In the previous 8 seasons, Lebron has been on two separate franchises


Those franchises either went to the finals or won the title in every single season.

When he goes to the lakers, they implode


We can pretend this was a LeBron problem if we would like.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:52 am to
And one of those teams was the almighty Cleveland Cavaliers...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95925 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:53 am to
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And one of those teams was the almighty Cleveland Cavaliers...

You find the constant and the variable to figure out what changed the equation

LeBron is the constant. He hasnt changed. He has been an emotional turd at all 3 stops.

The Lakers management is the variable that changed and is to blame for this shite show.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:54 am to
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We can pretend this was a LeBron problem if we would like.
I won't get into what has happened with the front office.

LeBron chose to join a dysfunctional franchise because it's the #2 media market and Hollywood. He shirked the obvious best basketball option even though it's still the #4 media market (Philly)
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16089 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:55 am to
Lebron actually met Rich Paul selling jerseys out of his trunk (maybe back in high school).
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:56 am to
He went to a dysfunctional franchise and it remained a dysfunctional franchise.

Lebron's fault.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95925 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:56 am to
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LeBron chose to join a dysfunctional franchise because it's the #2 media market and Hollywood. He shirked the obvious best basketball option even though it's still the #4 media market (Philly)

Correct

Saying Lebron is at fault means one is implying if he didnt go to LA they would have been better

LA was fricked the day Jeanie took over
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
61788 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:57 am to
Yes. At the very least it's 100% his fault he's there
This post was edited on 5/10/19 at 11:58 am
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 11:59 am to
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At the very least it's 100% his fault he's there
Which has what to do with the current discussion?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46216 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:00 pm to
What’s hilarious about that statement?

Drafted Ingram. Stole Kuzma and Hart in the draft.

Went from 17 wins to 26 to 35.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
96437 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:00 pm to
Would LA management have screwed the pooch as badly this season if they missed on both LeBron and PG13?


Getting one but not the other meant they had to do short term deals for one season to pursue more players next year.


Missing out on both could have meant they continued the youth movement rather than moved pieces like Zubac to get supporting players for a playoff run which didn’t happen.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46216 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:01 pm to
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That front office made nothing but mind-numbing moves post LeBron signing. Surrounding him with guys that can't shoot was asinine

Not sure what that has to do with pre-Lebron
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:05 pm to
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Those franchises either went to the finals or won the title in every single season. When he goes to the lakers, they implode We can pretend this was a LeBron problem if we would like.


He went to a 33-win Cleveland team with 21 year old Kyrie and a 31 year old Anderson Varejao as the only guys in the top 10 in minutes with a per north of 15, won 53 games, including 2 games vs. GS with a total of 44 minutes combined from Love/Irving, and we're supposed to believe LeBron is the cancer?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85137 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:06 pm to
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Not sure what that has to do with pre-Lebron


I'm pointing out it was the same FO.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46216 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:09 pm to
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I'm pointing out it was the same FO.


Minus 1 person
Posted by Rep520
Member since Mar 2018
10445 posts
Posted on 5/10/19 at 12:15 pm to
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Those franchises either went to the finals or won the title in every single season. 

When he goes to the lakers, they implode 


Also, every time LeBron has changed teams, the team he went to won more games and the team he left won significantly less.

This time, the Lakers didn't win much more, but probably would have won more if LeBron isn't out for 27 games.

Cleveland went from the NBA finals to one of the three worst teams in the league without LeBron.

Saying he brings a team down flies in the face of all evidence.
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