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re: The Greatest Teams That Never Won It All (BCS Era) Video

Posted on 5/4/26 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/4/26 at 11:49 pm to
I think I remember Lee had most of the snaps, then JJ became increasingly involved about halfway, until Lee was not playing at all (Didn’t Lee get completely benched after Bama or shortly thereafter?). As you explain it, it makes sense that JJ was going to be the starter all along. I was a lurker on TD, and people were PISSED that Les did not play Lee. Basically, 1/9/12 was when the masses turned on Les Miles for the handling of the Lee/JJ situation. Some LSU fans referred to JJ as Les Miles’ “pet”.

My memory could be off, as I’m not an LSU fan so I did not follow as closely, and I was finishing up school.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:35 am to
Jefferson came in on the 5th play of LSU’s first drive. It was an 8 play drive. Lee had the second drive to himself then Jefferson had the rest of the 1st half drives. Jefferson gets the first 2 of the 3rd quarter then Lee gets his final drive of the game on the 3rd possession then it was JJ the rest of the way. Lee had a mop up drive vs Western Kentucky, 1 pass attempt vs Ole Miss and was brought in the kneel the ball vs UGA the rest of the year. He was essentially benched like you said. People were pissed and you’re correct, a lot of the fans turned on him after that title game.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84697 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:43 am to
You might actually be a retarded person so I won’t argue with you. Just carry on and lick your windows.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84697 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 12:45 am to
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GOAT college season, but not GOAT college team.


This shouldn’t be controversial
Posted by holdmuh keystonelite
Member since Oct 2020
4646 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:37 am to
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2007 Missouri > 2007 West Virginia

I never understand the boner for the Mountaineers over Mizzou that year. WV lost to a 5-7 team and South Florida.

Mizzou was #1 going into championship weekend and finished #4.


I know you are a mizzou fan but that's crazy. I remember WVU losing to that pretty talented and ranked South Florida team. That might have been the worst one sided reffed games I've ever seen. WVU was obviously so much better but every time they did something good it was called back. Now the Pitt game was a bad loss but Pat White got injured in it and Macafee missed 3 easy field goals. WVU showed how good they were when they destroyed Oklahoma in the bowl game. This was back when teams played hard in Bowl games and it still meant something.
Posted by maizegoblue
Florida
Member since Jan 2011
2291 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 6:23 am to
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There’s still this irrational, emotional attachment to that team from a certain generation for some reason. Do you remember even years after that season some fans were still claiming we went undefeated? Lol weirdest shite I’ve ever seen.


I’m not an LSU fan, but would it be my generation? I still remember watching that LSU/BAMA regular season game as well as the boring rematch. I was 20 at the time. I was at a house party next door for the regular season game. That was fun.

I was cheering pretty hard for LSU in both games.

OT: I wish UM and LSU would do a home and home. The two schools have never played in football and we have 2 of the most historic stadiums. It would have been even cooler when Miles was coaching because as most know, he played at UM.

It’s also kind of weird with all the B1G/SEC bowl tie-ins they never met up there either. Obviously the system has changed a ton in the past decade or so.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1847 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 8:59 am to
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1998 Kansas State (I think they were better than Ohio State)

Great mention. I think Ohio State was slightly more talented overall but KSU was a very close second and blew them away from a QB & coaching perspective. I think KSU was the best single-season CFB team from 1996-2000.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71136 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 9:14 am to
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1998 Kansas State (I think they were better than Ohio State)


All 11 of Ohio State's wins were by double digits (including over Texas A&M, a team that beat Kansas State). Their only blemish was an inexplicable loss to Nick Saban's Michigan State Spartans.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:09 am to
Cry more
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 11:13 am
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 2:55 pm to
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Madking


I think your argument boils down to this:

After 1/9/12...LSU's OT victory in Tuscaloosa in hindsight looked like a cosmic upset. Things fell their way.

LSU had a great season, great record, good victories.

But the stench of the BCS Title game is foremost on the minds of the objective fan and mostly what he remembers...so few would put that LSU team on this list, fair or not.
This post was edited on 5/5/26 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 3:25 pm to
That’s part of it, as I said before you’re kind of looking at 2 different teams. One with at least a threat at QB and one that basically crippled your offense. The Bama game, as you said, needs proper context but I wouldn’t discount it. Great season for sure but when you match them up with others in consideration their final form had glaring holes others didn’t.
Posted by Free888
Member since Oct 2019
3272 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 4:57 pm to
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1994 Penn State does


That team is one of the reasons the BCS was needed. Osborne was basically given a career achievement award that year.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70608 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 5:13 pm to
Yep and I’m not a Penn State fan but that team just ripped off chunks of yards every play and could strike you anywhere on the field even though they did nothing fancy or exotic schematically.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 5/5/26 at 11:21 pm to
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That team is one of the reasons the BCS was needed. Osborne was basically given a career achievement award that year.


He said he was going to retire mid midseason and the writers jump Nebraska in the Poll over Penn State.

News flash, he didn’t retire…not with that loaded crime-blotter team arriving next year.

1994 PSU O is up there with 2005 USC, maybe better.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
5686 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 4:47 am to
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News flash, he didn’t retire…not with that loaded crime-blotter team arriving next year.

More great players departed than arrived. Stai and Weigert (Outland) were All-Americans on an OL that had four seniors. FB Corey Schlesinger (hero of the Orange Bowl) went on to be a Pro Bowler. Lost seven starters on D.

But it helps your style points when you’re no longer trying to score on guys like Cortez Kennedy (NFL HOF), Marvin Jones (Butkus), Derrick Brooks (NFL HOF), Ray Lewis (NFL HOF), and Warren Sapp (NFL HOF) down in the Orange Bowl.
Posted by Rabbs and QStick
Texas
Member since Apr 2012
3034 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 7:44 am to
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Loved that defense but they weren’t as good as some believe


Look my childhood was the Dinardo years, but to say this is insane. LSU only beat 3 teams that won BCS bowl games in 2011 and none of them were in Tiger Stadium.
This post was edited on 5/6/26 at 7:45 am
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122833 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 8:05 am to
I’m surprised 2023 Georgia never gets run here. One loss to Alabama where they kind of choked and had bad playcalling. Steamrolled a very good Ole Miss team and beat a 11 win Mizzou team by two scores.
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
6034 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 12:00 pm to
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I’m surprised 2023 Georgia never gets run here. One loss to Alabama where they kind of choked and had bad playcalling. Steamrolled a very good Ole Miss team and beat a 11 win Mizzou team by two scores.


Georgia '23 won the Natty. We are not discussing teams that won the Natty.
Posted by Obi-Wan Tiger
Fulshear TX
Member since Jan 2004
8418 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Georgia '23 won the Natty


You know damn well the 23 refers to the season and not the date of the champ game and that UGA did not win it that season.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122833 posts
Posted on 5/6/26 at 1:42 pm to
He’s a bit retarded
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