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re: The Greatest Teams That Never Won It All (BCS Era) Video
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:14 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:14 pm to RollTide1987
09 Florida Gators should be on that list ahead of a few of those
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Posted on 5/3/26 at 1:18 pm to Oklahomey
07 UGA > 07 Missouri > 07 WVU
Posted on 5/3/26 at 2:09 pm to Madking
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No it wouldn’t
It easily would’ve. It’s not debatable.
If they would’ve gone undefeated winning the SEC, beating WVU(big east champ), Oregon(pac champ) bama, and the undefeated big 12 champ.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 2:56 pm to St Augustine
It is though, when you match them up vs other teams they have huge holes where the others don’t. This reminds me of the pre BCS title convo where everyone thought they were a 10-13 point better team than Alabama with the home field because they didn’t understand what those teams actually were. What really happened was they got exposed. Not just beat, there wasn’t one second of the game where they had a chance. That isn’t an alltime anything.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:04 pm to Madking
You’re benefiting greatly from the benefit of hindsight. Had they gone in and likely boat raced ok state then none of that would’ve been discussed. They would’ve been likely the most accomplished team of all time or very close to it given their wins on the field.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 3:10 pm to St Augustine
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You’re benefiting greatly from the benefit of hindsight
This is how you judge alltime anything
It’s better than your alternate reality argument. How about you say they had an alltime season? When you say they’re an alltime team you have to compare them to other teams, personnel, coaching, matchups. Thats where they’re severely outmatched.
This post was edited on 5/3/26 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/3/26 at 7:12 pm to Madking
Are you ever gonna address that you were just making shite up last night or how your own data proved you wrong in a couple of different ways on this topic?
Posted on 5/3/26 at 11:12 pm to Oklahomey
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2008 Texas deserves a mention, as much as it pains me to say. 2008 was absolute chaos in the XII. Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech all were fighting for the conference crown as one was most certainly headed for the BCS title game.
2008 USC also deserves a mention, and I'd probably take them over just about all but a handful of the teams on the list.
They would have been really, really dangerous in a 4 or 12 team playoff even with how good Florida and Oklahoma were that year.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 12:54 am to AbuTheMonkey
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2008 USC also deserves a mention
Florida vs. USC was what we were deprived of...
The Trojans were:
1st in the nation in pass defense
5th in the nation in run defense
1st in the nation in total defense
1st in the nation in scoring defense
Posted on 5/4/26 at 7:37 am to AbuTheMonkey
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2008 USC also deserves a mention
That was a scary good team that inexplicably lost to a scrappy Oregon State team the weak after crushing a very good Ohio State squad.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:15 am to Madking
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No it’s a narrative you believe is a fact. I just showed you 6 of the 8 SEC opponents were rent a wins, that’s not one of the best schedules as you claim. It’s actually LSU’s 13th toughest schedule of the BCS era
Indiana beat:
Purdue (0 wins)
Michigan State (1 wins)
Maryland (1 wins)
Wisconsin (2 wins)
UCLA (3 wins)
Penn State (3 wins)
And they are regarded as one of the Greatest Teams ever. Your point does not hold.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:17 am to icecreamsnowball
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09 Florida Gators should be on that list ahead of a few of those
I agree. I think Florida wins in a playoff.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:20 am to littleavery1948
They went through a playoff and they’re not one of the greatest teams ever. Just because somebody asked if they were immediately after the title game, which happens ever year now, that doesn’t mean they’re regarded as one of the greats. Point stands
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 10:24 am
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:30 am to icecreamsnowball
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09 Florida Gators should be on that list ahead of a few of those
I do not agree.
The 2009 Florida Gators had a lot of potential but they kind of slept walk their way through the entire regular season. They struggled in quite a few games that season and probably should have lost to Arkansas at home. They got absolutely manhandled by a better-coached Alabama team in the SEC Championship Game.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 5/4/26 at 10:42 am to RollTide1987
01 Gators should be on the list. Didn’t lose a game when Earnest Graham suited up and blew everyone away by an average of 36.5ppg in those games only losing by a total of 5 points when he was hurt.
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:09 pm to Madking
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Point stands
Not really. Every team plays conference games against bad teams.
2009 Bama - SEC had six teams with a losing record in conference play; Alabama played five of them.
2011 Bama - SEC had six teams with a losing record in conference play; Alabama played five of them, just like LSU
2012 Bama - SEC had six teams with a losing record in conference play; Alabama played five of them
2008 Florida played four of six SEC teams with losing records
2009 Florida played five of six SEC teams with losing records
Thanks for playing
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:11 pm to RollTide1987
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that inexplicably lost to a scrappy Oregon State team the weak after crushing a very good Ohio State squad.
Wasn't inexplicable under Carroll. Always played up and destroyed great teams but seemed to always find a game to play WAY down and lose to a nobody.... ESPECIALLY the Beavers in Cowtown High School stadium in Corvallis. The lights weren't bright enough, I guess to get the team motivated and they consistently slept walked through entire 1st halves against the Beavers.
From 1968-1999 Oregon State couldn't beat USC, then when Carroll took over he consistently struggled to beat the Beavers in Corvallis going 1-3.with that one win being that Fog Bowl with the 2004 Trojans that escaped 28-21 by the heroics of Bush.
So yeah, after destroying #5 Ohio State 35-3 , the next weeks game in Corvallis was ripe for a predictable upset by "the giant killers" (as Oregon State was famous for), in beating OJ- led 1967 National Champions USC, 3-0 in Corvallis.
This post was edited on 5/4/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 5/4/26 at 2:47 pm to littleavery1948
That’s a deflection and non sequitur from the post I addressed
Posted on 5/4/26 at 3:25 pm to RollTide1987
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I do not agree.
That’s alright
Posted on 5/4/26 at 3:32 pm to Madking
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That’s a deflection and non sequitur from the post I addressed
How so? You were arguing that 2011 LSU played a number of bad teams in SEC play. I argue that every team plays bad teams in conference. If you want to argue that 2011 LSU does not deserve to be in the conversation for Greatest Teams to Never Win it in BCS era, fine, but it's not because they played a few bad teams in SEC play. But I understand, since you appear to be on the spectrum, so your methods of arguing might be a bit different.
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