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re: So, it's possible that Eric Bieniemy does not get a HC job this cycle
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:26 pm to Cosmo
Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:26 pm to Cosmo
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Just looked at Bieniemy’s rap sheet on wikipedia, damn, didnt know it was that bad
I didn't know it either - but this has become such a thing now to the point where that can't be brought up now in this story because it diminishes the now prevailing narrative. They've gone all in - and too far to turn back. And those that try to inject that will be ROASTED as only the social media mob in these type stories can do.
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Posted on 1/15/21 at 12:29 pm to I Bleed Garnet
He should get a job but if I’m him I wouldn’t want any part of jets or lions or jags even with Lawrence
I think the best fit for him would be Texans
Next would be chargers
I think the best fit for him would be Texans
Next would be chargers
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:47 pm to RLDSC FAN
So it begins. They're melting over today's hirings
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@Rich_Hammond
Meanwhile, I don't know how a team can look Eric Bieniemy in the face and say he doesn't deserve a shot.
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@wyche89
They won’t look him in the face when they say it....
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wyche89
No feelings will be spared. No (fill in the blank) will be given on this special edition of The Huddle and Flow podcast with @JimTrotter_NFL @tewarren that will drop Monday. Actions have spoken MUCH louder than words with this coaching hiring cycle. Until then.....
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@bonami_jones
we're locked onto bieniemy, but to hire no black candidates after *2020* is an awful look for a league pretending to care. and that looks quite possible.
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@bomani_jones
am i counting right and there are only two black head coaches in the nfl?
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@mikefreemanNFL
Wow
Just wow
Wow
Seriously, wow.
And you know what I mean by wow
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@mikefreemanNFL
The NFL should be absolutely embarrassed at this hiring cycle. I think it’s even worse than past ones because Bieniemy is over qualified
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@JFowlerESPN
With five NFL head coaching hires in place, it looks like no black candidates have received a second (follow-up) interview request with a team, and it very well might stay that way once the cycle is complete. Not exactly what the league had in mind.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 10:48 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:56 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Maybe raping is a problem for some owners
Get real, it's the NFL, they don't give a shite what you did years ago, if they can win now.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:00 pm to RLDSC FAN
To be fair I also saw NFL Twitter folk saying maybe this is why Bieniemy hasn't gotten a job after a number of bad Chiefs play calls today (including running an option run with a gimpy QB the play he got concussed on). But then again the 4th down pass at the end was ballsy and brilliant. But that's part of the problem, is it Bienemy or Reid calling the plays usually? I personally wouldn't be excited if my team hired him because I think the vast majority of the Chiefs success is just Mahomes being a freak that has Hill and Kelce to throw to.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:04 pm to RLDSC FAN
I mean he’s been a coordinator for three years. Mike Zimmer was one of the best defensive coordinators in the league for well over a decade and had to wait until his late 50s before getting a HC gig. Bienemy should be a Head Coach, but people melting down and acting like it’s an atrocity that he hasn’t been hired yet is laughable.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:05 pm to RLDSC FAN
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IIRC, he assaulted some parking attendant. It was during his time in college, so I don't know if that's really something an owner would be bothered by. I don't know much about his involvement with the rape scandals.
If it’s ok to try and cancel people for offensive tweets they made 10-15 years ago, then it’s ok to do the same to this guy for being a POS back in the day too.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:22 am to zzgobucky
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I don’t think that rule passed.
It passed but it doesn't matter what team it is. If a team's offensive or defensive coordinator or assistant GM gets hired by another team as head coach or GM that team gets a compensary 3rd round pick. They were talking about it last week on WHB in K.C. when Bieniemy and one of Veatch's assistant were both interviewing for jobs with other teams. Said if they were both hired K.C. would have received two end of the 3rd round compensation picks from the league.
The Reid coaching tree argument is bullshite. It has produced at least two coaches who have won Super Bowls, another who has made it to one, and another who will make to one if he wins next week. Compared to that the Belichek coaching tree is a stick. Unless he is asking for a ridiculous amount of money or power in the personel department there is no legitimate reason for him to not be hired. The last two guys that had the same position on Reid's staff got head coaching jobs and they didn't have any more say in the play calling department than Bieinemy does.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:25 am to NOSA
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is it Bienemy or Reid calling the plays usually?
Was it Pederson or Reid who was calling the plays when Pederson was the Chiefs offensive coordinator? Was it Nagy or Reid who was calling the plays when Nagy was offensive coordinator for the Chiefs?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 5:28 am to stlslick
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Maybe raping is a problem for some owners
Doubtful, have you seen the ticket prices for pre-season games?
Posted on 1/18/21 at 6:50 am to castorinho
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So, it's possible that Eric Bieniemy does not get a HC job this cycle by castorinhoFor a minute, I guess. Then people will move on to the next thing
Meh, I don't think so...this ain't going away - it will be kept in the spotlight through a few cycles till all coaching hires are made, and if he does not get a HC job you're going to see some major Social Media splash and since the news has largely become reporting tweets and the like - it will dominate the sports news.
Had Deshaun not interjected him into it - almost certainly this would not have been. I can't imagine there are not better black HC prospects, but Bienemy got the juice from Watson and the media sheep are fawning all over it.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 7:03 am to Tiger Ugly
Let me spin the idea he’s a poor interview, it’s pretty damn clear he isn’t a good interview. On a scale of poor, fine, and great he sure as hell isn’t great. He’s had his opportunities at this point, if he was a great interview he sure as hell would have a job right? So worst case, this is all on him.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 7:04 am
Posted on 1/18/21 at 10:07 am to RLDSC FAN
Fox Sports dude Nick Wright say Bieniemy is being passed over because the NFL is controlled by racist old white billionaires.....just more proof of systemic oppression, right Nick? Or maybe, just maybe when the potential coaches are going through the interview process the other candidates are determined to be a better hire........hmmmm.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:55 pm to Bass Tiger
I love outrage over unfounded speculation.
Also, I find it interesting how teams aren't at all racist when it comes to drafting guys to play on the team but all of the sudden become fierce racists when it comes to hiring a coach.
The most likely explanation is that teams aren't actually racist. As someone else said, it's a win at all costs league. These owners and GMs likely give zero fricks if the best candidate is black, white, or purple.
Also, I find it interesting how teams aren't at all racist when it comes to drafting guys to play on the team but all of the sudden become fierce racists when it comes to hiring a coach.
The most likely explanation is that teams aren't actually racist. As someone else said, it's a win at all costs league. These owners and GMs likely give zero fricks if the best candidate is black, white, or purple.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:59 pm to 88Wildcat
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The last two guys that had the same position on Reid's staff got head coaching jobs and they didn't have any more say in the play calling department than Bieinemy does.
One has already been fired and one is a rough start next year away from being fired.
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 1/18/21 at 12:59 pm to Chucktown_Badger
all this racism talk is bullshite when the clear cut #1 option this year also hasn't been hired
the similarities? both are still coaching
HC prospects get punished yearly for being coordinators on teams who go too far in the playoffs. last year Saleh was that guy
also, Saleh is a POC and it's hilarious to see the woke mob do everything they can to ignore that
the similarities? both are still coaching
HC prospects get punished yearly for being coordinators on teams who go too far in the playoffs. last year Saleh was that guy
also, Saleh is a POC and it's hilarious to see the woke mob do everything they can to ignore that
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Saleh also checks the non Christian box as he’s Muslim
This post was edited on 1/18/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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also, Saleh is a POC and it's hilarious to see the woke mob do everything they can to ignore that
Exactly. Diversity really means black
Posted on 1/18/21 at 1:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
Am I the only one who isn’t even sold on his ability to coach?
Reid is an amazing offense coach and Mahomes is extremely good, not to mention their embarrassment of riches when it comes to offensive weapons. It reminds me of Pete Carmichael for the Saints...it’s obvious he’s not the “mastermind”
If he was I doubt Mahomes would be pushing so hard for him to leave and be a HC. They know it’s all Reid.
Reid is an amazing offense coach and Mahomes is extremely good, not to mention their embarrassment of riches when it comes to offensive weapons. It reminds me of Pete Carmichael for the Saints...it’s obvious he’s not the “mastermind”
If he was I doubt Mahomes would be pushing so hard for him to leave and be a HC. They know it’s all Reid.
Posted on 1/18/21 at 3:06 pm to baldona
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Let me spin the idea he’s a poor interview, it’s pretty damn clear he isn’t a good interview. On a scale of poor, fine, and great he sure as hell isn’t great. He’s had his opportunities at this point, if he was a great interview he sure as hell would have a job right? So worst case, this is all on him.
He's also got significant baggage in his past. Enough to concern any employer even if it's fairly distant past.
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