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Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:26 am to
Posted by lsudave1
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Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:26 am to
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Almost like depth played a factor


Correct. Rojas hit the eventual series winning homer vs the jays in game 7 and he batted 9th.
Posted by witty alias
Member since Nov 2012
2512 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:26 am to
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Almost like depth played a factor.


It wasn’t depth. It was a great defensive play by a homegrown CF and HRs by a 38 year old journeyman and a homegrown catcher.
Posted by NotStupid
Member since Jul 2026
183 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:27 am to
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would love to see the dodgers front office try their luck at running a small market club


Friedman ran the Rays for years and had them contending on a tiny budget.

Give a smart guy like him $300 million and it was easy to see this happening.

Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41865 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:48 am to
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The Braves already beat the Dodgers this season in a series. They have an upcoming rematch and I'll bet that the Braves beat them again


Absolutely relevant to outcomes in October
Posted by Wally Sparks
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2013
32936 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:49 am to
Gonna be fun telling my 4 year old daughter next April why the Braves aren’t playing due to a lockout.
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15421 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:58 am to
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I mean is he wrong? Off the top of my head guys that stayed with them or went elsewhere since the organization started behaving like this


You’re missing a bunch of guys from the Guggenheim era:

Seager
Bellinger
Kenley Jansen
Oneil cruz
Wrobleski (so far)
Joc pederson

Then there’s the cast offs that dodgers turned into impact players such as Justin turner and max muncy
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
39244 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:03 am to
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You’re missing a bunch of guys from the Guggenheim era:



You are missing a key statement


quote:

since the organization started behaving like this





They competed at a high level but couldn’t get over the hump based on their own talent.


Then they bought titles


I get it. What’s more risk averse-proven mlb talent vs unproven prospects. They just somehow get rewarded with inflated prospect rankings over the last decade as well.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:07 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151297 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:16 am to
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They just somehow get rewarded with inflated prospect rankings over the last decade as well.
it's literally a conspiracy
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
39244 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:17 am to
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it's literally a conspiracy



Find me another 28 year old non Cuban in the top 75 of the mlb prospect list
Posted by lurking
Member since Nov 2022
3531 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:18 am to
Sporting a 4.5 career ERA and coming off TJ
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151297 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:20 am to
Checking eith goldennuggrt to see if he can get to the bottom of this like he did with the Yu Darvish trade
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63806 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:23 am to
4-5 years is an incredibly narrow timetable to evaluate how prospects have panned out

You could put together a legitimate title contender from graduated Dodgers draftees/IFA signings littered around MLB right now. They’ve done an incredible job at developing talent since Friedman was hired and people who suggest otherwise are either butthurt about them winning all the time or simply don’t know what they are talking about
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
39244 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:24 am to
So you think that’s a normal thing?


I mean come on

Let’s look at Jacob degroms write up at the age of 25


quote:

At first glance, it might be easy to dismiss the 25-year-old DeGrom as an older prospect. But if you take into account that he was a two-way player at Stetson, then missed the 2011 season in the Mets organization following Tommy John surgery, he's not far behind, experience-wise. He's proved himself to be a solid starter and reached Triple-A Las Vegas in 2013. DeGrom has a fastball that should be a plus pitch and combines it with a potentially above-average slider. He also throws a solid changeup. If DeGrom can have even just average command, he has a future as a starter and could soon be Major League-ready.







He was only the number 12 prospect for the METS not nationally and said some people might dismiss him because he’s OLD at 25 and had Tommy John.





The dodgers have traded a guy who is somehow in the top 75 overall who is 28 and coming off Tommy John.



Maybe he ends up great but for every organization they would NEVER get that type of juicing of their prospects




This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:33 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151297 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:26 am to
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So you think that’s a normal thing?
no! I literally agree with you about it being an unfair conspiracy!
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63806 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:27 am to
I don’t get the River Ryan thing simply because at that age with his injury history he’s probably a reliever, but the Tigers clearly liked him a lot as well. And despite what is posited by the great baseball minds on the MSB they don’t have some predisposition to help out the Dodgers.

They should have demanded Sheehan IMO

If you want a team that has incredible resources that has overhyped prospects look to the east coast
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:28 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151297 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:34 am to
The last wave of prospects was the weakest under Friedmans tenure. Diego Cartaya was the weakest #1 propsect we've had under him, imo. Pages amd Wrobleski are probably the only real "pieces" of that generation, and it was ranked accordingly. 2/3 years ago we largely were ranked around 11/12 in system rankings. The idea that we somehow get inflated rankings or are to blame when other organizations dont develop the prospects we trade them I'd my new favorite take from all of this
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 11:37 am
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
39244 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:39 am to
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I don’t get the River Ryan thing simply because at that age with his injury history he’s probably a reliever



So you agree that their prospect rankings are juiced.


Thanks
Posted by The Truth 34
Chavez Ravine
Member since May 2010
41865 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:42 am to
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Then there’s the cast offs that dodgers turned into impact players such as Justin turner and max muncy


Chris Taylor
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63806 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:43 am to
When will Big Prospect Ranking have it’s reckoning
Posted by 632627
LA
Member since Dec 2011
15421 posts
Posted on 8/2/26 at 11:50 am to
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They just somehow get rewarded with inflated prospect rankings over the last decade as well.


Due to their free agent signings, they have a logjam and their prospects can’t make it to the big leagues.
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