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re: Skenes now has a splitter/sinker and it’s basically unhittable

Posted on 5/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 4:34 pm to
They said he added it while in the Minors. Splinker
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 4:49 pm to
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They said he added it while in the Minors. Splinker


So he developed an unhittable pitch in like 7 innings. Yeah he’s not a real person
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 4:50 pm
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:09 pm to
Sucks Livvy will have to live in Pittsburgh
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:14 pm to
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They said he added it while in the Minors. Splinker


Does it also have arm side run like a change up? I could only watch on gamecast so I couldn’t actually see the pitches, but it seemed like every time he missed with it it was arm side.
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:17 pm to
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He was at 100 pitches through 6. No reason to potentially wind up with 140 pitches trying to get a no-no.


And an 8 run lead
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 5:40 pm to
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Does it also have arm side run like a change up?


Yes. It’s 96mph and professionals looked like idiots swinging at it today.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:13 pm to
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If you throw fastballs, you can probably get by. It’s when you throw balls with movement that mess your arm up. Nolan Ryan threw with power and that’s why he was as durable as he was.


He could throw a curve. He just learned to throw curves after his arm more fully developed after high school. That's one reason he lasted so long. He took care of his arm and worked it out with bands a lot as he got older. A lot of the pitchers back in the day took the same approach which was why they could pitch so long (steroids for some aside).

That's what I was saying earlier in the thread. Coaches these days teach young pitchers curves etc too early and it can screw up their arms in the long term.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 6:16 pm to
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Nolan Ryan threw with power and that’s why he was as durable as he was.

Nolan Ryan threw a lot of curve balls, a very good one actually
This post was edited on 5/17/24 at 6:17 pm
Posted by Musashi
South Louisiana
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:29 pm to
It almost had screwball movement. Nasty!
Posted by BeachDude022
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:35 pm to
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He was at 100 pitches through 6. No reason to potentially wind up with 140 pitches trying to get a no-no.


Exactly. Had he not had that one walk and was maybe perfect they prob would have kept him in
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:45 pm to
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Sucks Livvy will have to live in Pittsburgh



Shut your whore mouth. Pittsburgh is a beautiful city to live in.
Posted by GeauxtigersMs36
The coast
Member since Jan 2018
8697 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 7:49 pm to
Risk verses reward…. Risk him tearing or blowing out his shoulder in game 2 of a long career? No as much as I wanted him to keep pitching,
Posted by DR93Berlin
Member since Jul 2020
906 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:02 pm to
With every reply expose your limited knowledge of the game
Posted by MasterAbe1
Member since Oct 2016
5099 posts
Posted on 5/17/24 at 9:07 pm to
I highly doubt Pittsburgh lets his pitch count get above 100 very often this year in general. The Pirates aren’t contending, why blow out his or Jared Jones arm this year?
Posted by BatonrougeCajun
Somewhere in Texas
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:01 am to
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protect the pitchers at all cost…


And it’s working horribly
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22400 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:32 am to
The movement on that sinker was crazy and then when you see that it was coming in at 96 made it even crazier.

I know it’s early but that was Mo Rivera level nastiness where he basically could tell everyone it was coming and there wouldn’t be much you can do about it.

Also my non scientific opinion is that Skenes is just built right to throw 100mph. He basically is built like an NFL tightend. 6’6” 250 with thick legs.
This post was edited on 5/18/24 at 11:35 am
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31767 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:35 am to
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That's normal and healthy, and it's old school for pitchers to rely on heaters until they develop more before learning new pitches. It protects their arm more in the long term. Too many coaches abuse young pitchers these days like a rented mule to win games (teaching them these pitches too early), killing their long-term careers.


Stop living in the 90s, off speed puts less stress on the elbow valgus than fastballs do

Before spouting off how about researching things from this century
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:38 am to
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Yes. It’s 96mph and professionals looked like idiots swinging at it today.


I wonder if Paul knows where it is going. Some had serious arm side run and others just dove straight down at the plate.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6863 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 11:55 am to
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wonder if Paul knows where it is going. Some had serious arm side run and others just dove straight down at the plate.


Considering he threw it about 40 times and only walked one guy, I suppose he has an idea.
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
4193 posts
Posted on 5/18/24 at 12:05 pm to
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He was at 100 pitches through 6. No reason to potentially wind up with 140 pitches trying to get a no-no.


I understand the desire to let him see it through and get a no hitter.

But it was a smart play by the Pirates. If you don’t understand why, I don’t think any one here can help you.
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