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re: Should Tulane get invite to sec or big 12

Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:36 am to
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Tulane would be a good fit for both


What does Tulane add that benefits the SEC? Yulman is a 30k seat stadium. Besides Vandy, every other SEC stadium is at least double that capacity with many being 3x the capacity or very close to it. Tulane doesn't add anything in terms of media rights value since the SEC already has the New Orleans TV market via LSU and all the bandwagon Bama fans from the westbank.

You could make an argument for the Big 12. With Oklahoma and Texas leaving and being replaced by former CUSA and AAC schools, Tulane fits in better. Yulman would still be the smallest capacity stadium in the conference, but at least other Big 12 members have 40-45k stadiums and not all 70-100k like the SEC. Plus at least Tulane adds a new TV market for the Big 12.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58068 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:43 am to
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they ended up in the Big 10 in the long run. It would give Big 10 schools a better opportunity to recruit Louisiana for athletics. The bigger reason though is b/c Tulane is an AAU school. They could add to the Big 10's ability to pool resources to get more research money which actually dwarfs the amount of money schools make via sports.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 10:46 am
Posted by LsuNav
Sacramento
Member since Mar 2008
1389 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 10:53 am to
Bring them in the SEC and let them play Vandy as their cross. Having them in will LSU less than A&M.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19294 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:32 am to
Again, what do they have to offer either league? A TV market? N.O. brings, in comparison to almost every body, almost zero viewers. It's a Saints city, with the balance being LSU viewers as it is LSU's largest instate alumni base. The BIG 10? Get real. They can not sell out their 30,000 high school-like stadium. Their alumni base is NOT in N.O.so their fan base will not grow any significant amount anytime soon. And who forgets the similar ULLLL story of several years ago? They are now back in the middle of the pack in its ABC league. And like ULLL, they will eventually, sooner than later, lose their quality H.C. Yea, he stayed this year. In 3-4? With continued success, he's gone like every other HC at smaller colleges.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16421 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Tulane fits in better. Yulman would still be the smallest capacity stadium in the conference, but at least other Big 12 members have 40-45k stadiums and not all 70-100k like the SEC. Plus at least Tulane adds a new TV market for the Big 12.


Tulane's enrollment as about the same as Baylor and TCU but all the other schools in the Big 12 have much larger enrollments. Yulman and the lack of a decent basketball facility hurt their chances of getting into any of the P5's without some upgrades.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7824 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:37 am to
Big 12 could use Tulane just to have a destination city.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:40 am to
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By anybody’s standards except for maybe 5 schools


12-2 with a good bowl win, but most schools would be disappointed in losing to Southern Miss and UCF and missing out on the CFP in a year where you’re good enough to beat USC and Kansas State.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
14522 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:49 am to
Seems like the Big 12 is a natural fit based on location and because other AAC teams are joining. If they can keep up their success and not be a 1-year wonder, then I'm sure they'll get an invite once Texas and OU leave.
Posted by UncleLester
West of the Mississippi
Member since Aug 2008
6607 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:50 am to
Felt like this was a softball tossed up by the OP to get some people to shite all over Tulane’s Athletic program and to take away some of the shine from what the football team accomplished yesterday.

If so, well done and sorry that the buzz around Tulane was eating you and some others up so much.

While an upgraded Conference (in terms of media dollars) would be phenomenal, the key is just having access to a fair road to compete for Championships - which Tulane did not have in former BCS formats and will in the future Playoff.

It really makes some people feel uneasy that a team that is not part of the Boys Club has the talent to hang around and beat a USC team that had a month to prepare for them.

Here’s your next thread topic to help with your insecurity: “What would have Tulane’s record been with LSU’s conference schedule?”

Posted by TexasTiger33
Member since Feb 2022
13364 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:55 am to
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:55 am to
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nope. they aren't committed to athletics top to bottom. they don't even have a fricking softball team. frick em.
They probably realize it doesn’t create positive revenue so why have it. Seems kind of smart to me.
This post was edited on 1/3/23 at 11:56 am
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 11:58 am to
Tulane wasn't making the CFP this year, even at 13-0. Cincinnati was 4 inches away by Ok State from missing it last year.

If the CFP is the goal, they have a better chance in the AAC in the 12-team playoff than 75% of the P5 schools.

I think eventually the "Magnolia League" will come about -- Duke, Wake, Ga Tech, Tulane, Vandy, Rice, SMU, TCU, Baylor, etc. -- when the Top 20 Programs go do their own thing.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:06 pm to
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Tulane wasn't making the CFP this year, even at 13-0. Cincinnati was 4 inches away by Ok State from missing it last year.


Tulane would have been undefeated with a win over a top 10 opponent.

I think They get in over 1 loss Ohio State like Cincy got in over 1 loss Notre Dame

But I will Admit that may have been due to the head to head.
Posted by GoldenGuy
Member since Oct 2015
10875 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:12 pm to
Not to shite on their accomplishments this year, but no, neither would take Tulane.

It’s not how good/bad the other Louisiana schools are, but just how much LSU dominates the state and how little population are on board with the others. Ditto Arkansas and Missouri.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14471 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:16 pm to
Stupid question is stupid
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14896 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:17 pm to
A destination to get murdered?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
9452 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 12:32 pm to
Tulane should get the B1G invite instead of USCw if they want the more present superior football program.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19294 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 2:31 pm to
The weenies over Ohio State? Get real. The Buckeyes year in & year out brings with it one of the country's biggest TV markets, the Mid West as well as several large cities going east. And don't kid yourself, TV exposure does have an influence. An established program like Nebraska has struggled entering the conference. Do you honestly think a, to date admittedly, one year wonder would get the votes to be brought in?
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
1965 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:01 pm to
Tulane was incredibly stupid to leave the SEC many years ago.

They thought they were more important than what they were.

They will never be back in the SEC.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
29°59'55.98"N 90°05'21.85"W
Member since Aug 2019
7824 posts
Posted on 1/3/23 at 3:19 pm to
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A destination to get murdered?

I mean, sure, it does presume a nu-Mafia begins to bury the trash at some point in the near future.
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