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re: SEC and ACC expansion
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:00 pm to Solo
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:00 pm to Solo
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As a fan, I hate TAMU as much as anyone, but don't kid yourself, they are a catch. Big school, good academics, huge huge endowment (dwarfs any endowment in the SEC I'd bet) and a nationally recognized athletic program. Plus, you get into the Texas market.
All true, including the "I hate TAMU" part.
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:01 pm to SwatMitchell
i don't hate TAMU b/c i can only hate things that matter somewhat. TAMU doesn't matter
i mean if ball grabbing were a college sport, they'd be the shite at it and all, but CFB? frick that
i mean if ball grabbing were a college sport, they'd be the shite at it and all, but CFB? frick that
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
Please God not Texas arse To Mouth...we already have enough buck toothed, cattle fricking fans in the SEC as it is.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
they'd be one of the bottom 2-3 teams in the SEC right now.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm sure it's possible, but we risk being left out and ESPN hooking up with the pac16 in a year if we push it
There would still be other options. Double-header on CBS (nationally I mean). Versus for the JP caliber games (Versus has emerged as a legit player in sports thanks to their NHL coverage). TNT/TBS probably would want to get back in - adding GT in Atlanta wouldn't hurt from that respect.
And if ESPN took the Pac-16 then we'd obviously have the Fox Sports Network freed up. Fox might even want to start broadcasting regular season games on their big boy channel. Worst case maybe the "SEC Network" from ESPN to Fox Sports net.
ESPN doesn't have nearly as much leverage as you think they do. Yeah we all fricking love the ESPN 2nd tier night games but there are other options. TNT holds its own with ESPN in regards to the NBA playoffs.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:04 pm to PNTiger
Nice link.... 
I know everyone on this forum hates this...but it's true.
When your athletic program generates that much money and is worth $120m, you're a 10.
I know everyone on this forum hates this...but it's true.
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As the most lucrative college athletic program in the country, Texas has earned the right to be courted. Texas is the 10 standing at the corner of the bar.
When your athletic program generates that much money and is worth $120m, you're a 10.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
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and its academics are about even with LSU (aka nothing to scream about)
A&M is better.
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they're not overly successful at football
they are above average historically, with a very large and rabid following.
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their fanbase is fricking weird
true. but so are bama fans.
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they don't provide one of these mythical tv markets
they have a strong houston and dallas presence. 2 huge markets.
plus great facilities, success in mutliple sports, bonfire skills, dead dogs in the endzone, and yes an extremely wealthy school is always a good addition.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
TAMU has just made horrible fricking hires over and over. If they ever get a decent coach who can lock down even UT's leftovers in Houston, I don't see why they can't be successful. There's plenty of talent in that region to go around
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:06 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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Versus has emerged as a legit player in sports thanks to their NHL coverage
you might want to look at the Pac-10's current TV contracts
Versus is where TV revenue goes to die
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:06 pm to AlejandroInHouston
TAMU would not help the SEC. there is no national interest in TAMU. They aren't relevant outside to the diehards. screw them
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:06 pm to el tigre
Speaking of Texas, there was a pretty interesting, informative article written a few years ago about their decision to join the Big 12. The starts telling us a lot of information that most of us already knew about four pages in but the first three pages were pretty interesting reading to say the least.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:07 pm to usc6158
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TAMU has just made horrible fricking hires over and over. If they ever get a decent coach who can lock down even UT's leftovers in Houston, I don't see why they can't be successful. There's plenty of talent in that region to go around
right, they are traditionally a top 20 CFB program.
don't let the last 6-8 years blind you.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:07 pm to usc6158
hasn't one of the problems over there been the lack of pressure from the fan base and boosters?
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:07 pm to SwatMitchell
It is always a risk, but i doubt the PAC10 has much added leverage without Texas. If the SEC pulls them in or A&M we would pull the Houston market for sure & probably the Dallas & San Antonio markets too.
ESPN wants that market in addition to the SEC footprint now.
FSU & Miami do not add anywhere as close to the numbers that either Texas school can add. The University of Florida alreadys gets us those areas.
Same issue for Georgia Tech as Florida schools.
ESPN wants that market in addition to the SEC footprint now.
FSU & Miami do not add anywhere as close to the numbers that either Texas school can add. The University of Florida alreadys gets us those areas.
Same issue for Georgia Tech as Florida schools.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:08 pm to usc6158
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you might want to look at the Pac-10's current TV contracts
Versus is where TV revenue goes to die
i was about to ask why we'd go to vs. when the pac10 is doing this to LEAVE vs.
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:09 pm to PNTiger
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FSU & Miami do not add anywhere as close to the numbers that either Texas school can add.
FSU and UM = national programs. TAMU is not
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:11 pm to usc6158
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you might want to look at the Pac-10's current TV contracts
Versus is where TV revenue goes to die
But it's changing rapidly with expanded basic cable (and in HD no less) becoming the norm.
20 or so years ago when TNT/TBS started broadcasting the NBA playoffs we were all like "WTF?!?!" When ESPN got Monday Night Football we were all like "Holy shite?!?!"
The big boys (CBS, NBC, FOX, ABC) have been diluted - especially among educated sports fans. If there's a great SEC game on ESPN2 it will be on in sports bars over Notre Dame/Air Force on big bad NBC.
I guess my point is that one day the revenues between ESPN and Fox/TNT/Versus will be a lot closer than it is now. It's already come light years in a very short time.
And anyway the SEC is in the catbird seat and we'll get ours. I'm not worried at all. ESPN wouldn't drop us IMHO.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:11 pm to arrakis
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Texas has earned the right to be courted. Texas is the 10 standing at the corner of the bar.
you really think texas would come to the SEC? I don't think so because it would not make sense for them to jump from a pot into a frying pan. Plus, they would have to dump a bunch of those big XII rivalry games and still have to play OU every year (because they are not gonna dump them on their schedule)
that being said, if texas did come over and the SEC picks up clemson or GT then SEC would continue to dominate well into the the future
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:12 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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(Versus has emerged as a legit player in sports thanks to their NHL coverage)
did you just link the NHL and television revenue?
Cause the NHL has done everything possible to avoid that
Posted on 6/8/10 at 2:14 pm to aVatiger
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you really think texas would come to the SEC?
no.
i also think that they want to be a bigger fish relative to their conference peers.
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