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re: SEC and ACC expansion

Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:02 pm to
NFC South:

Saints, Falcons, LSU, Alabama, Miss State

NFC East:

Giants, Eagles, Florida, UGA, Vandy
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:04 pm to
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Southwestern: Arky, UT, TAMU, OU, OSU
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Dream on....


As I said, the teams would be subject to debate. I think UT will have a preference for the PAC-10, but I don't know that OU has any such preference. As long as we get two from UT, OU, and Nebraska I think it would work. Maybe instead it's OU, OSU, Nebraska, Texas Tech and Arky. OU and Nebraska might like to renew their rivalry.
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:04 pm to
That is basically where this is going...

BTW, I did a little research and TAMU's endowment is almost 6 billion dollars. I only bring this up because most SEC schools are in the 500 million range. Florida has 1 billion, Arky has 900 million and Vandy has 2.4 billion. I found that interesting/disturbing.
Posted by el tigre
your heart
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:24 pm to
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BTW, I did a little research and TAMU's endowment is almost 6 billion dollars. I only bring this up because most SEC schools are in the 500 million range. Florida has 1 billion, Arky has 900 million and Vandy has 2.4 billion. I found that interesting/disturbing.


yeah, that's sick.

check out the Big 10 schools. makes us look like a bunch of poor rednecks.
Posted by SwatMitchell
Austin, TX
Member since Jan 2005
2333 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:27 pm to
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BTW, I did a little research and TAMU's endowment is almost 6 billion dollars. I only bring this up because most SEC schools are in the 500 million range. Florida has 1 billion, Arky has 900 million and Vandy has 2.4 billion. I found that interesting/disturbing.
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yeah, that's sick.

check out the Big 10 schools. makes us look like a bunch of poor rednecks.


Definitely not to be ignored, plus consider the large, growing population centers in Texas.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:36 pm to
The more I read about TAMU the more I think the SEC needs to gun for them.

Any Texas people out there have insight to the legislative/social dynamics behind splitting up Texas/TAMU?

ETA: Big 10 schools all have good size endowments. Texas and Stanford have 12 billion. The south is poor.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 3:42 pm
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:46 pm to
I'm in Texas, but I really don't know the dynamics of this one. We've seen the Big-10 e-mails that seem to indicate that Texas Tech is a consideration (thorn) in UT joining the Big-10. We've also seen Texas legislators starting to act when the PAC-10 left Baylor out. I'm not sure if this isn't more about making sure the other schools in Texas stay in a major conference and aren't left out of the mix than it is about keeping the Texas schools together.

I wonder... If the SEC invited UT, TAMU, TT, and Baylor, would keeping the Texas schools together be enough to sway UT? ...And if it did, would we want this?
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37580 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:49 pm to
you hear a lot of stuff from Texas about the academics being an issue - which considering the quality of the Big 12 seems like bullshite

Short answer the only Texas school that the SEC is interested in - and is interested in joining the SEC - seems to be Texas A&M

Tech (and maybe Baylor) are the freeloaders that the PAC might have to accept if they want Texas
Posted by Solo
Member since Aug 2008
8257 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 3:54 pm to
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I wonder... If the SEC invited UT, TAMU, TT, and Baylor, would keeping the Texas schools together be enough to sway UT? ...And if it did, would we want this?


I think the SEC would do whatever it takes to get Texas. I just don't see Texas agreeing to go to the SEC.
Posted by DocBugbear
Arlington, Texas
Member since Mar 2008
8140 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 4:04 pm to
Yeah, but if UT is locked in with TAMU, Texas Tech and Baylor and the other 3 want to go to the SEC? Who's to say...
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37580 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 4:07 pm to
time was that Texas and Texas A&M were fairly inseparable. I think that may no longer be the case - so long as both major schools find a decent landing spot the legislature may not object

Worst case scenario for Tech and Baylor is Texas tries to go independent - then they are fricked
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:04 pm to
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Worst case scenario for Tech and Baylor is Texas tries to go independent - then they are fricked


Kansas
ISU
K-state
Tech
Baylor

The Little 5 Conference
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55001 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:11 pm to
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Texas tries to go independent


no one can survive as an independent nowadays... not even texas
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:17 pm to
Texas does not want into the SEC. This seems to be the consensus from the school, it's alumni, and it's fans. Texas A&M on the other hand would like to join the SEC. I think Oklahoma follows whatever Texas does.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:19 pm to
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no one can survive as an independent nowadays... not even texas

only reason why nd can survive being independent is the nbc deal.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 5:20 pm
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:25 pm to
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Texas A&M on the other hand would like to join the SEC.


I keep reading this on this thread. Do you have a link from a legit source? I haven't seen any news stories that say they are interested and would like to read up on it.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:30 pm to
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I keep reading this on this thread. Do you have a link from a legit source? I haven't seen any news stories that say they are interested and would like to read up on it.


Don't have a link. I read in a news article the Texas A&M AD(Byrne?) said the SEC is a real possibility for his school. Texags.com is their main message board. The vast majority of their fanbase wants to break away from Texas and be the sole Texas school in the SEC.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:35 pm to
Interesting statement from TX

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Longhorns officials also made it clear Sunday night that their intention is to stay in the Big 12.

One source basically laid out all of the things Texas has accomplished in the Big 12 (top revenue-producing athletic department at $125 million; a national title in football and another appearance in the BCS national title game; a Final Four in basketball; top licensing and marketing rankings) and said, "Why would we trade certainty for uncertainty?"


Might be lip service to the Big XII before it jumps ship.
Posted by KingwoodLsuFan
Member since Aug 2008
11447 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:39 pm to
Texas would love to stay in the big 12 but if other teams start jumping ship the big 12 won't be good anymore. Right now that conference revolves around Texas. I'm not sure on this but I heard Texas gets a bigger money cut then the other schools.
Posted by tiger perry
Member since Dec 2009
25668 posts
Posted on 6/8/10 at 5:46 pm to
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I'm not sure on this but I heard Texas gets a bigger money cut then the other schools.



The Big XII has unequal revenue sharing for it's members. Schools like Texas and Oklahoma get more revenue based on their tv appearances. Schools like Iowa State and Baylor get less money. This is one of the big reasons Mizzou is ready to jump ship. They would make a lot more $$$ in the Big Ten.
This post was edited on 6/8/10 at 5:48 pm
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