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re: Prime Tyson v Holyfield/Lewis?
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:03 pm to thegambler
Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:03 pm to thegambler
True, he either avoided or lost to every top fighter from the era- Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Foreman, Moore, Klitchkos
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Posted on 11/24/24 at 5:41 pm to ronricks
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You think ‘prime’ Tyson is beating a prime George Foreman? A prime Ali? We already saw how inept Tyson looked against Holyfield and Lewis. Tyson was an exciting fighter until Buster Douglas beat the shite out of him. The aura was gone after that. It was over.
This in a nutshell. I watched the Douglas/Tyson fight at a friends house and when Tyson got KO'd I told him this:
"Douglas just showed the heavyweight world the blueprint on how to beat Tyson".
Posted on 11/24/24 at 8:21 pm to gumbo2176
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"Douglas just showed the heavyweight world the blueprint on how to beat Tyson".
Quick Tillis drew the blue print and Buster laid down the foundation.
Posted on 11/24/24 at 10:41 pm to BoardReader
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Prime Tyson would absolutely dogwalk a Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:20 am to Boodis Man
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prime Tyson would've beaten any heavyweight. nobody is beating the tyson that fought Spinx in 88
this.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:31 am to olemc999
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Quick Tillis drew the blue print and Buster laid down the foundation.
Absolutely. And Holyfield perfected it.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:13 am to moontigr
That's funny
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:51 am to prplhze2000
Tyson is 5’10, 225 lbs. Lennox Lewis was 6’5 250+ lbs. Klitschko was 6’6 240lbs.
The reach and weight difference was somewhat laughable, I’m not on Tyson’s side I’m saying he really didn’t stand a chance against some of the enormous true heavy weights.
The reach and weight difference was somewhat laughable, I’m not on Tyson’s side I’m saying he really didn’t stand a chance against some of the enormous true heavy weights.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 8:55 am to Boodis Man
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Larry Holmes
Holmes was 36 years old with 48 fights under his belt when he lost to Spinks.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:21 am to BoardReader
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Prime Tyson would absolutely dogwalk a Lennox Lewis or Wladimir Klitschko.
I say no version of Tyson beats Lennox Lewis but he has a great chance of KO'ing Klitschko since he showed his chin was vulnerable to a solid punch.
Klitschko had 5 losses in his career, with 4 coming by KO.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 11:51 am to gumbo2176
If Mike doesn't KO Klitschko in the first three rounds, Wlad has him for lunch.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 12:02 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Klitschko
Severely underrated all-time
See his title defenses above. His problem is the era in which he boxed.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 2:59 pm to litenin
Nope. Lewis and Holyfield were better fighters. Mike would've lost no matter what age because he wasn't as good as them.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:15 pm to theunknownknight
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Klitschko
Severely underrated all-time
See his title defenses above. His problem is the era in which he boxed.
Wlad had an impressive record as a heavyweight, but was boring as hell to watch fight. He employed the jab, grab/hold, get broke apart by the ref-----rinse and repeat.
I can remember many times Manny Stewart pleading with him to just get in there and punch his opponent instead of the above tactics. I really hated watching his fights.
Now, his brother Vitali was a much better fighter and a hell of a lot more active in the ring as far as aggression.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 3:35 pm to gumbo2176
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I say no version of Tyson beats Lennox Lewis but he has a great chance of KO'ing Klitschko since he showed his chin was vulnerable to a solid punch
People don't realize just how fast the skill drained out of the heavyweight division after the downfall of Holyfield.
Lewis was perfect for fighting Holyfield and really should have won the first 'Undisputed' fight outright; but it was the mark of that decline in both Holyfield and the division as a whole.
Overall, the UFC hadn't stolen everything yet, but you could watch the heavier weight classes as they swirled the toilet bowl even before then.
This post was edited on 11/25/24 at 3:37 pm
Posted on 11/25/24 at 4:57 pm to BoardReader
ESPN ranked the greatest 50 boxers of all time- Tyson was ranked #50
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50) Mike Tyson
Heavyweight
Ring career: 1985-2005. Record: 50-6-0-2 (44 KOs)
Career notes: Knocked out Trevor Berbick in the second round in November 1986 to become youngest heavyweight champion in history. … Intimidating demeanor and devastating two-fisted knockout power cowed many opponents into submission before the first bell. … Tore through heavyweight ranks until being upended by 42-1 underdog James "Buster" Douglas in 1990. … Comeback was derailed by a prison sentence for rape from 1992 to 1995. … Regained WBC heavyweight belt from Frank Bruno and WBA belt from Bruce Seldon in 1996, but lost to Evander Holyfield in November of that year. Melted down in rematch, biting both of Holyfield's ears. … Was beaten badly over eight rounds by Lennox Lewis in 2002. … Quit on his stool after six rounds in his last fight, against Kevin McBride, in 2005.
Posted on 11/25/24 at 6:21 pm to TigerintheNO
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ESPN ranked the greatest 50 boxers of all time- Tyson was ranked #50
Overall, I rank a lot of fighters over Tyson since ESPN took into account all weight divisions making that list. I could probably think of 30 right off the top of my head without going into any research on the matter.
Once Tyson got beat, he was just like the playground bully who got put in his place. Then he loses to Holy in the first fight then was getting beaten even worse in their second, thus the biting of the man's ears to get disqualified.
Then Lennox Lewis added insult to injury when he administered his beatdown of Tyson. By then, he was as good as done as a pro fighter.
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