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re: Prime Ali vs. Prime Mike Tyson

Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 11/25/25 at 8:58 pm to
The only question would be how much of a fool would he make out of Tyson.

He would have his game totally dissected before the opening bell
Posted by DemonKA3268
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Member since Oct 2015
21093 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:06 pm to
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That’s a terrible analogy.


Opinions vary.

Ali was a mouthpiece, great fighter but we will never know and anyone saying differently is ignorant.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10223 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:13 pm to
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Ali was a mouthpiece, great fighter but we will never know and anyone saying differently is


Actually you saying we’d never know is ignorant by your own standard of logic
This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 9:42 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22771 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:19 pm to
I think prime Ali wins easily. I saw some of his fights as a kid, and saw all of Tyson's while in college.

A little perspective- Tyson had trouble with tall guys who could actually box. I remember him fighting Larry Holmes, who was washed up by that point and purely in it for the payday... Holmes gave Tyson a lot of trouble with the jab for a couple rounds. Then he got tired and slow, and went down on the first good hit.
Going back to the "both in their primes" argument, I think Tyson loses to prime Larry Holmes. And I think prime Ali beats Holmes.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3954 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:20 pm to
We missed Ali's prime. I think the best we saw of him was vs Clevland Williams.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45938 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:22 pm to
This. Ali would mindfrick Tyson, then take him out.
And I rooted for Joe Frazier in all three fights.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30894 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

We missed Ali's prime.

This. He had to spend his physical peak on the sidelines.
Posted by JackDempsey
Lake Charles
Member since May 2023
622 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:36 pm to
I agree with the majority of posters here: Tyson is hugely overrated and Ali would box his ears off.

The thing Tyson fans never get (besides the fact that he lost to the best fighters he fought, Lewis and Holyfield, twice) is that he just wasn't as mentally tough as the great ones. Fighters like Ali, Frazier, Louis, Foreman, etc....no one intimidated them.

Intimidation was one of Tyson's greatest weapons but it wouldn't be a factor against the greats. Also, he didn't have the stamina that guys like Ali, Frazier, etc.
had. They were 15 round warriors with tremendous willpower.

As for Tyson catching Ali with a big punch, sure it is possible. It also more than possible, it is extremely likely, that Ali would get up like he always did and start whipping his arse again.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4665 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:40 pm to
Ali had one of the greatest chins in the history of the division. And he paid dearly for it later on.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4665 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 9:45 pm to
People also wrongly believe Ali couldn’t hit. He didn’t have Tyson’s one-punch KO power and he had hand issues later on but when he sat down on his punches he could crack. He was swiveling Foreman’s head in Zaire. And when he was younger and in his real prime, he combined speed and pop.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
25535 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:51 pm to
I stopped liking Cassius Clay once he changed his name to Muhammad Ali.

This post was edited on 11/25/25 at 10:53 pm
Posted by GolfIsGood
Member since Jun 2017
321 posts
Posted on 11/25/25 at 10:54 pm to
quote:

Tyson would have murdered my hero


Certainly your hero was not Ali.
Posted by brmark70816
Atlanta, GA
Member since Feb 2011
11145 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 3:03 am to
Tyson had the weirdest career ever. He fought 28 times his first two years as a pro and won the belt(s). He was knocked out at 24 and was never the same. So, his prime was from 19-23. But he really didn't fight anyone great during that time, and they all seemed like set-ups. He dodged a ton of guys.

I believe Tyson was athletically a freak and supremely skilled. Tyson could beat anyone. He just doesn't have a good resume. His career isn't top 10, even for a heavyweight. Usyk already has better signature wins. But Tyson believers will always defend his legacy.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
23359 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 5:58 am to
Prime Ali, Prime Foreman, Prime Frazier would all have won vs Tyson.

No doubt at all.

Posted by ArcticTiger
North Pole
Member since Nov 2018
2428 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 7:07 am to
Ali all day long. He would have Rope A Doped Tyson for 5-6 Rounds then KO'd. Tyson himself said the same.
Posted by silkyjohnson
Member since Nov 2006
884 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:34 am to
the two most overrated athletes on this board are mike tyson and cecil collins.

ali fought and beat 11 hall of famers.
mike tyson fought 2 and lost to both.
Posted by GoGators1995
Member since Jan 2023
6285 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 8:37 am to
Wasn't Tyson still prime when he lost to Buster Douglas?
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38714 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:08 am to
Tyson was tailor made for Big George to destroy.
Posted by gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
19285 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 9:56 am to
Tyson was only 5 years into his boxing career when he fought Buster Douglas and was a 42-1 favorite to beat him.

Tyson's problem was he had left the people who made him the fighter he was early in his career, and he took up with Don King and his lot.

I believe Tyson didn't really train as hard for the Douglas fight thinking he was such a favorite he'd just go out there and blow the guy away and as we all now know, that didn't happen.
This post was edited on 11/26/25 at 12:41 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
40552 posts
Posted on 11/26/25 at 10:14 am to
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This is like saying the 70’s Steelers could beat the 2000’s Patriots.



Man people are really dumb on here

The people who say Tyson could beat Ali really tells you the people with the worst takes in sports.
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