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re: President Tate critical of WNBA

Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:20 pm to
I didn't know the WNBA draft was like that. Seems like it's basically a participation trophy for halfway decent womens college basketball players to get "drafted".
Posted by JakeFromStateFarm
*wears khakis
Member since Jun 2012
13059 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:24 pm to
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yalists. But the WNBA needs to examine its business model.

They have no business model. They’re a charity case. If the NBA stopped giving money to the WNBA, the league would collapse.
Posted by Brummy
Central, LA
Member since Oct 2009
4670 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:28 pm to
They have three rounds in the WNBA draft when the roster size is only 12. The NBA only has two rounds with 15 man rosters. Of course you're going to have a bunch of draft picks cut - a team isn't going to turn over a 1/4 of their roster every year.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:41 pm
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72124 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:31 pm to
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from the WNBA loyalists.


Who cares what 9 people think.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:53 pm to
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I never realized how many WNBA fans we have on the MSB, but they're always on top of WNBA news and have lengthy discussions on these topics

“I’m mad that the absurdity of something I secretly support but am too ashamed to admit to is being pointed out yet gain. I will now make passive aggressive comments to attempt to deter people from continuing to point out this latest absurdity.”
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 3:54 pm to
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the WNBA only exists because the NBA heavily subsidizes it. It couldn't survive on its own.


Tate is being hypocritical. He’s making fun of the WNBA for their model relying on the NBA when the only reason WCBB is fairing well is because it too has been propped up by the men’s game for 50 years.

The difference is the government has forced schools to subsidize WCBB and will continue, while the NBA chose to virtual signal and do it, but has started realizing there’s nothing in it for them so why keep doing it? No one is making them.

There might be 5 WCBB teams that make money. And until possibly last year LSU was not one of them.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 3:56 pm
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:02 pm to
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If professional women's basketball showed the potential to make money, someone would have started a competitor league by now.
There was a minorly successful league, but the WNBA was formed with NBA money and stole some of their stars, killing the league off. No one wants to compete with a league like the WNBA where the owners can throw money at it on a whim.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30102 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:03 pm to
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the only reason WCBB is fairing well is because it too has been propped up by the men’s game for 50 years.


I disagree. Women’s CBB needed to be propped up early, but it was niche-y from the get go. Louisiana Tech and Old Dominion weren’t propped up by men’s hoops. Enter USC, Texas, and Pat Summitt, and I think the ladies were sustainable on their own at those places for moments at a time. UConn took it to another level.

We are just now seeing some parity develop within the game. I don’t plan my day around ladies college ball, but there’s enough for hards of any given school to support a winner.

I don’t think the WNBA gets that same attention.

This actually proves my point about the name on the front of the jersey mattering more. You could take D3 guys and put them in LSU/Alabama jerseys and have them play. As long as the playing field is level, fans will watch.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:07 pm to
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They have three rounds in the WNBA draft when the roster size is only 12. The NBA only has two rounds with 15 man rosters. Of course you're going to have a bunch of draft picks cut - a team isn't going to turn over a 1/4 of their roster every year.

Even with NBA rosters at 12 they were able to bring in new players. The WNBA drafts players a month before rosters have to be cut to 11 or 12. The players barely have the opportunity to squeeze in a few practices before they are cut.

In addition to that the agreement between the players and teams (CBA) seems to greatly favor veteran players. Therefore new players have an incredibly difficult time getting a roster spot well beyond what players do in the NBA.

The SEC could probably form a very competitive league just based on the WNBA cast-offs that would destroy the WNBA.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63005 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 4:48 pm to
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The easy solution is making the WNBA draft 1 round



What are you solving by doing that?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
22013 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 5:28 pm to
Read an article quoting an "insider" as saying the League is very disappointed in the lack of female fan support".
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 6:32 pm to
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“I’m mad that the absurdity of something I secretly support but am too ashamed to admit to is being pointed out yet gain. I will now make passive aggressive comments to attempt to deter people from continuing to point out this latest absurdity.”
You should be mad about how absurdly dumb and incorrect your statement is.

But you lack the self awareness to realize how dumb and incorrect your statement is, so you'll continue to reply and say more dumb and incorrect statements.

Go!!!
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 6:33 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:08 pm to
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You should be mad about how absurdly dumb and incorrect your statement is.

Should be really easy for you to point out the dumb and incorrect parts then. Almost as easy as it should’ve been for you to provide literally any proof for something you claim has always happened. But we know how that turned out.

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But you lack the self awareness to realize how dumb and incorrect your statement is, so you'll continue to reply and say more dumb and incorrect statements.

And you lack the balls to outright publicly support your beliefs that you know are absurd, so you’ll continue to reply doing exactly that for a while before transitioning to quippy 1 liners and then emoticons because you have literally nothing substantive to say.

So let’s get started.
Posted by TrouserTrout
Member since Nov 2017
6425 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:15 pm to
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Tate is being hypocritical. He’s making fun of the WNBA for their model relying on the NBA when the only reason WCBB is fairing well is because it too has been propped up by the men’s game for 50 years.
Bingo! WBB players will make bank on NIL while the WBB team will end up in the red. Hey more power to them make money but let’s not act like the WBB team is making profit even with a national championship. It’s a charity case just like the WNBA.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112854 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:24 pm to
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Should be really easy for you to point out the dumb and incorrect parts then
I quoted it.

You are quite literally factually wrong. Not my opinion, but factually wrong.

What is the point or what do you feel you get out of arguing against an actual fact? It's weird.
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So let’s get started
Gotta love being so confident and loud about being factually incorrect. Again, weird but why would you want to do that? Please explain.
This post was edited on 5/17/23 at 7:25 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
10586 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:31 pm to
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I quoted it.

You quoted my accurate mocking of your post in this thread, yes.

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You are quite literally factually wrong. Not my opinion, but factually wrong.

I am quite literally factually correct. Not my opinion, but factually correct.

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What is the point or what do you feel you get out of arguing against an actual fact? It's weird.

What is the point or what do you feel you get out of passive aggressively trying to shame people from pointing out the absurdity of your belief system instead of just supporting it outright? It’s weird.

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Gotta love being so confident and loud about being factually incorrect. Again, weird but why would you want to do that? Please explain.

Apparently not as much as you love being passive aggressive about your beliefs that you’re ashamed of. Again, weird but why would you want to do that? Please explain.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Member since Oct 2003
5999 posts
Posted on 5/17/23 at 7:45 pm to
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I disagree. Women’s CBB needed to be propped up early, but it was niche-y from the get go. Louisiana Tech and Old Dominion weren’t propped up by men’s hoops. Enter USC, Texas, and Pat Summitt, and I think the ladies were sustainable on their own at those places for moments at a time.


Yeah but who did they play? Every other team in every other conference was subsidized. So their very schedule was made possible by the men’s game. Instead of being the globetrotters of the women’s game they were legitimized. All by government fiat.
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18692 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:44 am to
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they're not competing with anything, they're subsidized



Exactly, They are like the little boutique the rich guy buys for his wife to run that loses money every year, but keeps her from bitching....as much anyway.
Posted by The Eric
Member since Sep 2008
24400 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 6:58 am to
Tate has been a bigger surprise than Orgeron somehow winning a national title. Dude has been killing it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41021 posts
Posted on 5/18/23 at 7:13 am to
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Not-so subtle endorsement by Tate for Reese, Morrow & Van Lith to stay/play/get-paid at LSU for the next two years, fully using up their available eligibility.

Hell yeah!

This also means Tate will support/advise 5-stars, like Mikaylah Williams & other future bluechips, to wisely stay all four years


He's fighting for his current and future players, and helping them see it makes sense to stay on campus and graduate.

Win/Win.

He's the most sports focused university president at LSU since Emmert.
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