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re: Philadelphia 76ers Eject Fan for "Free Hong Kong" Poster
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:38 pm to JBeam
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:38 pm to JBeam
quote:
Meh...Americans playing morality police is pretty comical to me. Especially when we flip a coin on dictatorships all the time.
yup 100
and you're literally discussing the NBA with a guy who has never posted in an NBA thread before this controversy
he is here consuming the product bc of the ordeal
speaks volumes
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:38 pm to JBeam
quote:Agreed that we as a country have a nasty tendency to be wishy-washy and hypocritical as frick, but not a reason to ignore blatant, severe human rights abuse the likes of which even Stalin would be impressed by.
Meh...Americans playing morality police is pretty comical to me. Especially when we flip a coin on dictatorships all the time.
I don't think it's a case of morality police either, unless you identify morality police as calling something that is blatantly wrong just that. In which case, we simply disagree which is fine.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:39 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:I wish I had seen this prior to my last post to save myself some time
No. Demonstrating our displeasure with such is not dictating to them.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:40 pm to Kodar
quote:Mainly because it's a big 3 sport.
All true, but I don't really recall a situation ever like this one, at least in terms of public attention and backlash that may actually have significant traction.
For example, I didn't see the outcry when Qatar won the site for the 2022 World Cup. Sure a few articles circled about their numerous human rights abuses. But overall people have moved on from that issue.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:40 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:Oh yes, because whether or not I've posted in a NBA thread is what dictates my validity or lack thereof in a discussion. Honk.
and you're literally discussing the NBA with a guy who has never posted in an NBA thread before this controversy
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:40 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Toby, there are some ITT trying to say the NBA "should" or "have" to.
Again, the NBA is not going to bite a hand that feeds them globally. Nobody should expect them to.
It was not a NBA issue originally, it was a employee/employer issue that was dealt with. People just did not like how it was dealt with and thought they needed to right a perceived (in their eyes) wrong.
Morey could have left the tweet up and chose not to. So is he not as complicit to the situation as is the NBA?
Again, the NBA is not going to bite a hand that feeds them globally. Nobody should expect them to.
It was not a NBA issue originally, it was a employee/employer issue that was dealt with. People just did not like how it was dealt with and thought they needed to right a perceived (in their eyes) wrong.
Morey could have left the tweet up and chose not to. So is he not as complicit to the situation as is the NBA?
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:43 pm to JBeam
quote:Indeed.
Mainly because it's a big 3 sport.
quote:Part of that I imagine is just the lack of connection between your average American and soccer, whereas basketball is another matter.
For example, I didn't see the outcry when Qatar won the site for the 2022 World Cup. Sure a few articles circled about their numerous human rights abuses. But overall people have moved on from that issue.
Does that justify not giving the Qatar matter a harder look? No, but people tend to get more uppity when it's something remotely close/personal to them.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:43 pm to Kodar
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because whether or not I've posted in a NBA thread is what dictates my validity or lack thereof in a discussion. Honk.
no it indicates you were never a consumer in the first place
so "losing you" literally means nothing to the nbas bottom line
you're just too beyond dumb to realize that most of the people mad about this never cared about the NBA until now.
and you think the "NBA will pay" because of this situation
you're playing yourself. lmao
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:45 pm to sms151t
And so it begins. This situation in HK will likely touch every spectrum of consumer goods before it's over.
Blizzard Sets Off Backlash for Penalizing Hearthstone Gamer in Hong Kong
Blizzard Sets Off Backlash for Penalizing Hearthstone Gamer in Hong Kong
quote:
HONG KONG — Activision Blizzard became the latest American company to find itself caught between its business interests in China and the values of its core customers after it suspended an e-sports player who voiced support for the Hong Kong protests during a live broadcast. The decision to suspend Chung Ng Wai, a professional Hearthstone player in Hong Kong, for a year, while forcing him to forfeit a reported $10,000 in prize money, prompted a backlash in the United States similar to the public relations debacle the N.B.A. has faced this week. Gamers posted angrily on social media and in forums, while politicians saw it as another troubling sign of China’s chilling clampdown on speech worldwide. “Recognize what’s happening here. People who don’t live in #China must either self censor or face dismissal & suspensions,” Senator Marco Rubio, Republican of Florida, wrote on Twitter. “China using access to market as leverage to crush free speech globally.” Senator Ron Wyden of Oregon, a Democrat, concurred, saying on Twitter that Activision Blizzard showed “it is willing to humiliate itself to please the Chinese Communist Party.”
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:47 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:45 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:Wait, so anyone on all of TD that comments on this topic, but hasn't posted in a NBA thread was never a consumer in the first place?
no it indicates you were never a consumer in the first place
Holy shite that was some impressive mental gymnastics.
quote:Irrelevant to the topic.
so "losing you" literally means nothing to the nbas bottom line
quote:Weren't you just crying earlier about personal attacks?
you're just too beyond dumb to realize that most of the people mad about this never cared about the NBA until now.
quote:I mean, they have received pretty serious public backlash over this and have pissed off China. It already happened
and you think the "NBA will pay" because of this situation
quote:
you're playing yourself. lmao
boi you are just all 7 kinds of stupid
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:46 pm to Kodar
Qatar got a lot of “WTF?” from people on general principle because it is a outdoor soccer tournament being held in a desert country which reaches 120F at times during the day.
The utter corruption and massive human rights violations being turned up just underscore why the Cup shouldn’t be held there.
The utter corruption and massive human rights violations being turned up just underscore why the Cup shouldn’t be held there.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:46 pm to JBeam
quote:Oh you didn't know about that? That shite started yesterday and it exploded gloriously. Blizzard is in deeper water than the NBA right now IMO. They had another incident today with cutting off a stream of some players for supporting HK. I got a thread on the Gaming Board about it.
JBeam
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:47 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:
and you think the "NBA will pay" because of this situation
Well they almost certainly will. China's about to pull the plug
No cap
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:48 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:if true. that IS a big deal
China's about to pull the plug
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:49 pm to JBeam
Here is my thing..
Hong Kong demonstrations have been going on for months, nobody paid a bit of attention. The Chinese sent in Tanks and troops. The demonstrators took down the airport for hours and days at a time. Good for them. China reacted like they did in Tiananmen, but nobody said anything.
Now a simple tweet has made this blow up, but this has been going on for months. Why is it just now that people on this site are reacting?
Hong Kong demonstrations have been going on for months, nobody paid a bit of attention. The Chinese sent in Tanks and troops. The demonstrators took down the airport for hours and days at a time. Good for them. China reacted like they did in Tiananmen, but nobody said anything.
Now a simple tweet has made this blow up, but this has been going on for months. Why is it just now that people on this site are reacting?
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:49 pm to sms151t
quote:
Toby, there are some ITT trying to say the NBA "should" or "have" to.
Again, the NBA is not going to bite a hand that feeds them globally. Nobody should expect them to.
Oh I'm under no delusions that the NBA will come out of this much worse for wear, especially once it leaves the main news cycle.
My main issue is with the NBA's hypocrisy. Hopefully their unwillingness and/or inability to take a hard line stance RE: China will give folks pause before allowing them such legitimate sway over other sociopolitical commentary (since the NBA has made themselves about that of late). That's really all I'm wondering will happen.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:50 pm to sms151t
quote:
Why is it just now that people on this site are reacting?
Because this is a sports message board and it’s the first sports related story to it? Surely you aren’t this dumb
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:50 pm to sms151t
quote:What?
Hong Kong demonstrations have been going on for months, nobody paid a bit of attention. The Chinese sent in Tanks and troops. The demonstrators took down the airport for hours and days at a time. Good for them. China reacted like they did in Tiananmen, but nobody said anything.
Now a simple tweet has made this blow up, but this has been going on for months. Why is it just now that people on this site are reacting?
This has been a pretty darn big deal for months now.
This is now just big in basketball circles for obvious reasons, but this is not a new story overall.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:50 pm to sms151t
quote:
nobody paid a bit of attention
This is a lie. Stop the lies.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:51 pm to Kodar
quote:I know about Twitch cutting some of their livefeeds. But I didn't know about thet Blizzard ordeal.
Oh you didn't know about that? That shite started yesterday and it exploded gloriously. Blizzard is in deeper water than the NBA right now IMO. They had another incident today with cutting off a stream of some players for supporting HK. I got a thread on the Gaming Board about it.
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