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re: Philadelphia 76ers Eject Fan for "Free Hong Kong" Poster
Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:58 pm to Kodar
Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:58 pm to Kodar
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My political fire has been reignited recently, probably heavily due to the HK mess, so I found my arse dragged back on to here. Paying more attention to football again, of course it helps that AU is having a solid season so far.
Belated congrats on the W this season at Jordan-Hare West
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still have that game against you when you were Mizzou and I had that last second slant ingrained in my head cause of the pressure
One of the craziest games I've ever played
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Sounds like my brother. Good to know another person worth a shite out there is reproducing ?
Well idk about that but at least Aggiebelle's DNA is getting passed on
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Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:59 pm to AbuTheMonkey
listen dude.
ive admitted the NBA took a financial hit here. clearly.
to the lg, as we observed, keeping ALL of China was more valuable than the maintenance of upset, triggered Americans
ive admitted the NBA took a financial hit here. clearly.
to the lg, as we observed, keeping ALL of China was more valuable than the maintenance of upset, triggered Americans
Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:59 pm to Mr Perfect
And you miss my point. China is a lot of money but there is potential to lose FAR more if they screw up their core US and Canadian market.
Lose 10% of the fans and you have lost roughly as much as what China brings in. Lose more than that and you are losing more than what China brings in and endangering your own long term growth.
Kowtowing to China is penny wise and pound foolish.
Lose 10% of the fans and you have lost roughly as much as what China brings in. Lose more than that and you are losing more than what China brings in and endangering your own long term growth.
Kowtowing to China is penny wise and pound foolish.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 12:59 pm to Mr Perfect
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if it bothered you, truly bothered you, you never would have supported the NBA in the first place
There you go being disingenuous again. Per par for you.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:00 pm to Mr Perfect
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of course my post implies that losing a few Americans is better off than losing all of China. that's the card the NBA played.
Probably won't matter soon. Daddy china gonna choose for em
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:01 pm to msutiger
This situation will only get worse for the NBA. Attempting to keep both sides happy is not going to be possible, and I think Xi Jinping likes soccer better anyway.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:01 pm to teke184
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if they screw up their core US and Canadian market.
meh. triggered Americans watch and consume, dude.
this issue brought in an entirely different demographic for viewership
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:06 pm to Mr Perfect
quote:Wait, what? What demographic did this issue BRING in? The Chinese have been watching, but because of this issue, not so much anymore. The only thing this issue will do is damage or entirely remove a demographic in viewership. As has been mentioned, China is not known for accepting positions that ride the fence. The NBA will most likely be forced to choose between standing for freedom of speech in the USA, or bowing the knee to China.
this issue brought in an entirely different demographic for viewership
Since the NBA does have some business sense, there is only one smart option there.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:09 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:Before we finally beat you guys at Jordan-Hare last year, I legitimately was wondering if we would just start marking the game in the pre-season as a W/L depending on locale
Belated congrats on the W this season at Jordan-Hare West
quote:Same here man. I've played some wild games, mostly in that dynasty, but that one was one of the most memorable.
One of the craziest games I've ever played
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Well idk about that but at least Aggiebelle's DNA is getting passed on
I feel confident in my prior assessment, but at least at the end of the day I guess I'm 50% right at minimum. This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:14 pm to Kodar
quote:That's a slippery game to play for a number of US companies that are involved with China. I don't think most people are willing to pick up that rock to see what's underneath it.
The only thing this issue will do is damage or entirely remove a demographic in viewership. As has been mentioned, China is not known for accepting positions that ride the fence. The NBA will most likely be forced to choose between standing for freedom of speech in the USA, or bowing the knee to China.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:14 pm to Kodar
quote:thanks Daryl Morey
it became political and stopped being pure business.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:18 pm to JBeam
quote:They may not have a choice with the trajectory we're on with this situation at the moment. I imagine nearly every single company with ties to China have already warned their employees regarding making statements in the wake of the NBA/Blizzard mess, but Idk if their employees will go along with that. Tomorrow may be another company wrapped up in this.
I don't think most people are willing to pick up that rock to see what's underneath it.
ETA: Blizzard employees aren't even unified (as expected) on this matter, and some have already made a statement at work in some fashion that they do not stand with their employer on this.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:20 pm to chalmetteowl
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thanks Daryl Morey
Seems to me that Morey was following a pattern of behavior that the NBA had largely encouraged (RE: Speaking up about percieved social injustices)
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:20 pm to JBeam
It is one that companies like Facebook and Google can probably get away with.
Someone like Disney, OTOH, is horribly exposed on a number of fronts because of theme parks, retail stores, TV networks, films, etc.
Someone like Disney, OTOH, is horribly exposed on a number of fronts because of theme parks, retail stores, TV networks, films, etc.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:20 pm to chalmetteowl
quote:While he can be cited as the originator of the tweet that technically launched the domino effect, it really comes down to China/NBA (nuance of timing because I'm not sure which occurred first) who came down on Morey to apologize. That is what launched the NBA straight into the forefront on this matter, whereas if they had ignored the matter, it likely does not explode like this and force the NBA into a tricky position.
thanks Daryl Morey
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:22 pm to Kodar
It is the Streisand Effect in play.
Morey’s tweet received little notice until Fertita lost his shite. China’s response from there just started spinning things out of control.
If people had ignored it, it probably wouldn’t have been a thing at all.
Morey’s tweet received little notice until Fertita lost his shite. China’s response from there just started spinning things out of control.
If people had ignored it, it probably wouldn’t have been a thing at all.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:22 pm to Kodar
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They may not have a choice with the trajectory we're on with this situation at the moment
Do you really think a vast amount of people really care what the Chinese do to their citizenry? Americans want cheap goods with some quality. You could go ask 100 random folks on the street today what their stance is and it would be like watching a Waters World gotcha or Kids Say the Darnedest Things episode.
America truly does not care. We are not the world's morality police.
Tilman dealt with this with Morey, it is over. Our values do not coincide with China's or the Communist for the most part. The NBA trying to save a dollar screwed it up.
This is a no win for both sides on this.
This post was edited on 10/9/19 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:24 pm to teke184
The NBA/ESPN have a partnership to broadcast games on China state TV that will net the NBA $1.5B over ten years, not sure how much ESPN’s cut is for but I’m sure it’s significant enough to buy their obedience.
Hell, even The Athletic is punting on this story, and have disabled comments on all NBA/China stories. It’s bizarre.
Hell, even The Athletic is punting on this story, and have disabled comments on all NBA/China stories. It’s bizarre.
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:And this is ultimately why I hope the NBA goes down fricking hard in this
NBA had largely encouraged (RE: Speaking up about percieved social injustices)
NBA: "We take strong stands for social justice for [insert some minority or whatever social issue present in America]."
Morey: "I support HK."
NBA: "Yeah, about what we said earlier, just ignore all of that."
Posted on 10/9/19 at 1:25 pm to Kodar
quote:The NBA isn't going anywhere because of this issue.
And this is ultimately why I hope the NBA goes down fricking hard in this
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