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Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:57 am to oleyeller
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He is an above avg qb though
Jesus Christ
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:29 am to KarlMalonesFlipPhone
So the fact that mannings division was poop for most of his career will be ignored? Aren't the jags in his division? That's two wins automatically lol.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:31 am to suavecito80
Coming from an NFC South fan?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 10:40 am to suavecito80
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So the fact that mannings division was poop for most of his career will be ignored? Aren't the jags in his division? That's two wins automatically lol.
yeah the jags, titans and texans. Woo!
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:37 pm to Hot Carl
quote:Drew Bree's career INT% - 2.5%
I love Brees, but to me, the turnovers are gonna be what keeps him from being a top 2-3 QB perception wise.
Brady & Manning 2.4%
That's negligible, so that seems more like a myth based on the data, no?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:42 pm to oleyeller
quote:Careful way out on that above average limb!!
He is an above avg qb though. nothing to be ashamed of
quote:So the shitty defense system is the system he's in?
brees is a system qb. He puts up alot of yards, but never many wins.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:54 pm to shel311
The fact people overlook just how god awful the Saints defense is when talking Brees is impressive. Historically bad defenses. If you gave him a 15-20 defense for his run in NOLA they'd rarely miss the playoffs.
To be fair as well, he has had a 2x all pro receiver in Jimmy Graham. I don't care if the NFL called him a TE.
Fact is, if Brees were on the Pats, Boys, Steelers, 49ers, Eagles, Packers putting up these numbers, the media would be all over his nuts. The national media just doesn't care about the Saints. They don't draw.
To be fair as well, he has had a 2x all pro receiver in Jimmy Graham. I don't care if the NFL called him a TE.
Fact is, if Brees were on the Pats, Boys, Steelers, 49ers, Eagles, Packers putting up these numbers, the media would be all over his nuts. The national media just doesn't care about the Saints. They don't draw.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:04 pm to ShamelessPel
quote:
2012: Drew Brees,
Madden bowl winner.
Madden covers
Brees 1
Peyton 0
This post was edited on 12/3/16 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:13 pm to aib799
From another thread:
Currently leading the league in completions, attempts, completion percentage, touchdown passes, and yards (with a 76.2% completion over the last 6 games)
Well on his way to another 5000+ yard, 40+TD, 70%+ season. No one is history has done this other than Brees (2011) and he is about to do this for the SECOND time.
To put this in perspective: Only 5 QBs in history have thrown for 5000 yards in a season. The other 4 have only done it once. Brees is about to do it for the FIFTH time alone. Only 8 QBs in history have thrown for 40+ TDs in season (10 total times) and Brees is about to accomplish this for the THIRD time (most ever). 70% completion has only been accomplished by 6 different QBs (7 times total none active other than Brees) and Brees is about to accomplish this for the THIRD time.
Passing for 33+ TDs as only have 58 times total in history and Brees is about to accomplish this for the NINTH STRAIGHT season.
Brees is also only one of three QBs in history to have a career passer rating of over 100 in the playoffs (Bart Star and Kurt Warner are the only other two).
No one in history sniffs his last 11 year run. We have never seen a QB play at this level for so long. If he stays healthy and doesn't retire early he will demolish the TD record, the yards record, the completions record, and the completion percentage record.
All without ever having an all-pro WR.
We are witnessing tGOAT.
Currently leading the league in completions, attempts, completion percentage, touchdown passes, and yards (with a 76.2% completion over the last 6 games)
Well on his way to another 5000+ yard, 40+TD, 70%+ season. No one is history has done this other than Brees (2011) and he is about to do this for the SECOND time.
To put this in perspective: Only 5 QBs in history have thrown for 5000 yards in a season. The other 4 have only done it once. Brees is about to do it for the FIFTH time alone. Only 8 QBs in history have thrown for 40+ TDs in season (10 total times) and Brees is about to accomplish this for the THIRD time (most ever). 70% completion has only been accomplished by 6 different QBs (7 times total none active other than Brees) and Brees is about to accomplish this for the THIRD time.
Passing for 33+ TDs as only have 58 times total in history and Brees is about to accomplish this for the NINTH STRAIGHT season.
Brees is also only one of three QBs in history to have a career passer rating of over 100 in the playoffs (Bart Star and Kurt Warner are the only other two).
No one in history sniffs his last 11 year run. We have never seen a QB play at this level for so long. If he stays healthy and doesn't retire early he will demolish the TD record, the yards record, the completions record, and the completion percentage record.
All without ever having an all-pro WR.
We are witnessing tGOAT.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:19 pm to oleyeller
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but never many wins.
Football is an individual sport like golf or tennis.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:23 pm to aib799
Manning revolutionized the QB position with presnap stuff
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:16 pm to aib799
Why do you have to shite on Manning to put up Brees? Personally, I love them both.
There's a 100 other QBs to compare to.
There's a 100 other QBs to compare to.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:22 pm to 3nOut
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Why do you have to shite on Manning to put up Brees? Personally, I love them both.
I don't get it either. It's like people have to defend their guy by invalidating their peers. In this era we are witnessing 3 or possibly 4 all time greats (Manning, Brady, Brees and Rodgers assuming he stays healthy and is productive the rest of his career). They're all good and their accomplishments can stand on their own, no reason to bring down the other guys when defending any of them
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:31 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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4th quarter comebacks. Manning is 1st. Brees is 10th.
I'm pretty sure Brees is 1st all time in 4th quarter comebacks that then resulted in other team scoring again... Saw that very recently I think on here.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 3:35 pm to oleyeller
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brees is a system qb. He puts up alot of yards, but never many wins. He is an above avg qb though. nothing to be ashamed of
The "system" of competing 70 percent of your passes? If this system is so productive and easy to run, why do more "above average qbs" not run it?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 4:37 pm to oleyeller
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brees is a system qb. He puts up alot of yards, but never many wins. He is an above avg qb though. nothing to be ashamed of
Like Peyton when he had to run kubiak's system in 2015. Yeah, he's not a system QB
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:09 pm to GynoSandberg
Manning an Brady would both be lucky to win a Super Bowl in NO.
Brees would be just as successful as either QB in NE, IND, or DEN.
Brees would be just as successful as either QB in NE, IND, or DEN.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 8:28 pm to aib799
Because today
Posted on 12/11/16 at 3:40 pm to theGarnetWay
How many teams in that division have been to the Super Bowl again? Going back to when manning was in the division. I'll hang up and listen.
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